Comments on: Ellison Trip To Iraq Round Up http://mnpublius.com/2007/07/ellison-trip-to-iraq-round-up/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:14:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Anonymous35 http://mnpublius.com/2007/07/ellison-trip-to-iraq-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5327 Anonymous35 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:52:10 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/07/ellison-trip-to-iraq-round-up/#comment-5327 Chris: Just keep in mind, that even if your little dream comes true - which it very well might - and things are indeed "getting better" in Iraq, the folks who shoved this war down our throats are not suddenly vindicated. Furthermore, if things are on any kind of upswing in Iraq, it has absolutely nothing to do with President Bush, and everything to do with our soldiers and our Commanders on the ground; the very same people we sent into battle with inferior equipment, and inferior health coverage when they come back. Let's make sure and not lose our perspective on things if we find that Iraq might not be as much of a massive failure as we thought it would be. Lastly, I think you will find that most Democrats will embrace what the Commanders on the ground say about the progress being made or not made. If we can draw down in a way that harms the troops less, they will do it that way. However, I also think that you will not, under any circumstances, see the American people say that we should stay in Iraq another 5-10 years so we can "win the war", even if the Democrats do. The so-called "war" was already lost. What Ellison is most likely saying is that he is impressed with what our soldiers - the best in the world - are doing. We should all be impressed, no matter what. Chris: Just keep in mind, that even if your little dream comes true - which it very well might - and things are indeed “getting better” in Iraq, the folks who shoved this war down our throats are not suddenly vindicated. Furthermore, if things are on any kind of upswing in Iraq, it has absolutely nothing to do with President Bush, and everything to do with our soldiers and our Commanders on the ground; the very same people we sent into battle with inferior equipment, and inferior health coverage when they come back.

Let’s make sure and not lose our perspective on things if we find that Iraq might not be as much of a massive failure as we thought it would be. Lastly, I think you will find that most Democrats will embrace what the Commanders on the ground say about the progress being made or not made. If we can draw down in a way that harms the troops less, they will do it that way. However, I also think that you will not, under any circumstances, see the American people say that we should stay in Iraq another 5-10 years so we can “win the war”, even if the Democrats do.

The so-called “war” was already lost. What Ellison is most likely saying is that he is impressed with what our soldiers - the best in the world - are doing. We should all be impressed, no matter what.

]]> By: Max http://mnpublius.com/2007/07/ellison-trip-to-iraq-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5326 Max Thu, 02 Aug 2007 04:52:21 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/07/ellison-trip-to-iraq-round-up/#comment-5326 I'm kind of surprised that Robert Gates would take a terrorist (according to some posters on this site) along with him. I’m kind of surprised that Robert Gates would take a terrorist (according to some posters on this site) along with him.

]]> By: Chris http://mnpublius.com/2007/07/ellison-trip-to-iraq-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5325 Chris Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:28:15 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/07/ellison-trip-to-iraq-round-up/#comment-5325 Interesting how Ellison acknowledged, as the New York Times did yesterday, that things are improving in Iraq. I wonder how that gels with Rep. James Clyburn? Clyburn was asked by a Washington Post reporter how Democrats would respond if Gen. Petraeus says in September that the surge is working and we would be foolish to retreat from the policy. He responded, "Well, that would be a real big problem for us, no question about it." Interesting how Ellison acknowledged, as the New York Times did yesterday, that things are improving in Iraq. I wonder how that gels with Rep. James Clyburn? Clyburn was asked by a Washington Post reporter how Democrats would respond if Gen. Petraeus says in September that the surge is working and we would be foolish to retreat from the policy. He responded, “Well, that would be a real big problem for us, no question about it.”

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