Comments on: And There Was Much Rejoicing http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:20:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Eva Young http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7659 Eva Young Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:02:47 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7659 EWA: Why not comment with your name attached? I have no idea who will win DFL endorsement in the district. Whoever brings more of their supporters to the caucuses will win endorsement. That's how Michele Bachmann won the Republican endorsement - is she packed the caucuses with her people. EWA: Why not comment with your name attached?

I have no idea who will win DFL endorsement in the district. Whoever brings more of their supporters to the caucuses will win endorsement. That’s how Michele Bachmann won the Republican endorsement - is she packed the caucuses with her people.

]]> By: El WIN ALREADY! http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7681 El WIN ALREADY! Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:59:55 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7681 Eva, do you really think Bob Olson has ANY chance to beat Elwyn in an endorsement race? Elwyn already has the support of half the delegates from last time... He went 7 ballots with "superstar" Patty Wetterling. Bob Olson is an Amateur running an even more amateur campaign. I'm sorry, but 18 "key" endorsements doesn't win anyone an endorsement. Besides the fact that INDIVIDUALS don't "endorse" they "support." Groups of people "endorse" like a non-profit, PAC etc... Elwyn will win the endorsement and will surprise a lot of people with how well his campaign will be run and how his message of INDEPENDENT THINKING will have a true effect on the voters. Go Elwyn, GO! And how much of Bob Olson's own money will he have to throw into this race? He certainly can't fundraise... Eva, do you really think Bob Olson has ANY chance to beat Elwyn in an endorsement race? Elwyn already has the support of half the delegates from last time… He went 7 ballots with “superstar” Patty Wetterling. Bob Olson is an Amateur running an even more amateur campaign.

I’m sorry, but 18 “key” endorsements doesn’t win anyone an endorsement. Besides the fact that INDIVIDUALS don’t “endorse” they “support.” Groups of people “endorse” like a non-profit, PAC etc…

Elwyn will win the endorsement and will surprise a lot of people with how well his campaign will be run and how his message of INDEPENDENT THINKING will have a true effect on the voters.

Go Elwyn, GO!

And how much of Bob Olson’s own money will he have to throw into this race? He certainly can’t fundraise…

]]> By: Tinkerbell http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7680 Tinkerbell Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:19:30 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7680 Tinkerbell is like a used car salesman--Mr. Slick. That will not sell with the people in the 6th congressional district. Even the Dems could see through him the last time around. Have you ever heard that you are judged by those you associate with? His association with Dan Erhart an Anoka County Commissioner will kill him in Anoka County. He is disliked by most. Tinkerbell is like a used car salesman — Mr. Slick. That will not sell with the people in the 6th congressional district. Even the Dems could see through him the last time around. Have you ever heard that you are judged by those you associate with? His association with Dan Erhart an Anoka County Commissioner will kill him in Anoka County. He is disliked by most.

]]> By: Chris http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7658 Chris Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:55:31 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7658 Thank you Blogger -- you are correct! Thank you Blogger — you are correct!

]]> By: Blogger http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7679 Blogger Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:26:26 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7679 <I> Because they would probably lose.

Because they would probably lose.

]]> By: Eva Young http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7657 Eva Young Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:10:37 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7657 Even after Patty started running in the 6th, she skipped many events she should have been going to. A democrat running in the 6th has to reach beyond traditional democratic constituencies - and that means make a point of going to Chamber of Commerce events. Patty did not do that. Even after Patty started running in the 6th, she skipped many events she should have been going to. A democrat running in the 6th has to reach beyond traditional democratic constituencies - and that means make a point of going to Chamber of Commerce events. Patty did not do that.

]]> By: Chris http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7678 Chris Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:47:26 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7678 rick, I wish Democrats had the courage to run on legalizing gay marriage and pulling out of Iraq in six months. Why don't they? rick,

I wish Democrats had the courage to run on legalizing gay marriage and pulling out of Iraq in six months. Why don’t they?

]]> By: rick http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7677 rick Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:29:37 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7677 The political calculus of elections calls for difficult decisions at times. There are times that as a progressive I must bow to realities of the election at hand. You can't run an Ellison or a McCollum in the 6th and stand a chance of winning. You must have a candidate that appeals to working class independent voters and Reagan Democrats (I hate that term, but i can't think of another way to describe them). Bachmann's campaign did a great job of painting Patty as a radical feminist liberal, not true but it stuck. Secondly, her race for the Senate put her behind in the important voter contacts that are a must in a Congressional race. You have to be at every parade and event you can to build that name/face recognition. By the time she switched races she was too far behind to run a winning campaign. As for the wedge issues, I think the same sex marriage issue has lost it's steam. I can't for the life of me figure out how if my gay brother gets married to the person he loves it will affect my marriage of 30 years to my wife. Eva is right, it's a human rights issue, one of equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law. The political calculus of elections calls for difficult decisions at times. There are times that as a progressive I must bow to realities of the election at hand. You can’t run an Ellison or a McCollum in the 6th and stand a chance of winning. You must have a candidate that appeals to working class independent voters and Reagan Democrats (I hate that term, but i can’t think of another way to describe them). Bachmann’s campaign did a great job of painting Patty as a radical feminist liberal, not true but it stuck.

Secondly, her race for the Senate put her behind in the important voter contacts that are a must in a Congressional race. You have to be at every parade and event you can to build that name/face recognition. By the time she switched races she was too far behind to run a winning campaign.

As for the wedge issues, I think the same sex marriage issue has lost it’s steam. I can’t for the life of me figure out how if my gay brother gets married to the person he loves it will affect my marriage of 30 years to my wife. Eva is right, it’s a human rights issue, one of equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law.

]]> By: Eva Young http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7676 Eva Young Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:37:18 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7676 Bachmann's extremism was MOST evident when it comes to her attacks on gays. Patty Wetterling's campaign put out press pieces that suggested that Wetterling had the same position Bachmann did on gay marriage in the final weeks of the campaign. It was silly - the damage had already been done by the direct mail campaign from the RCCC - and they defined the issue (which was scary bogey man of gay marriage) - rather than Wetterling defining the issue - which was writing discrimination into the constitution. Walz won and Wetterling lost - Walz was direct - he said he had no problem with gays being able to participate in the institution of marriage which had done so much for him. Then it becomes end of story. Wetterling said different things to different audience and was never able to defend her position when Eric Black nailed her on it. Her campaign also returned a contribution to the Human Rights Campaign prior to the 6th CD convention. If Tinklenberg's campaign had been on top of this one at the time, they'd have been able to take that advantage away from Wetterling. Bachmann’s extremism was MOST evident when it comes to her attacks on gays. Patty Wetterling’s campaign put out press pieces that suggested that Wetterling had the same position Bachmann did on gay marriage in the final weeks of the campaign. It was silly - the damage had already been done by the direct mail campaign from the RCCC - and they defined the issue (which was scary bogey man of gay marriage) - rather than Wetterling defining the issue - which was writing discrimination into the constitution.

Walz won and Wetterling lost - Walz was direct - he said he had no problem with gays being able to participate in the institution of marriage which had done so much for him. Then it becomes end of story. Wetterling said different things to different audience and was never able to defend her position when Eric Black nailed her on it. Her campaign also returned a contribution to the Human Rights Campaign prior to the 6th CD convention. If Tinklenberg’s campaign had been on top of this one at the time, they’d have been able to take that advantage away from Wetterling.

]]> By: Eva Young http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/comment-page-1/#comment-7675 Eva Young Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:29:04 +0000 http://s23139.gridserver.com/2007/09/and-there-was-much-rejoicing/#comment-7675 Tinklenberg will have to win the endorsement first - and from what I hear, that's going to be a challenge, unless he does what Michele Bachmann did with the Republican endorsement - do grass roots organizing and pack caucuses. Tinklenberg will have to win the endorsement first - and from what I hear, that’s going to be a challenge, unless he does what Michele Bachmann did with the Republican endorsement - do grass roots organizing and pack caucuses.

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