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Joe Bodell had something about this earlier - said Bonoff was making calls. I think Bonoff would be the stronger candidate of the two women running.
Bonoff also has the huge advantage of her Senate seat not being up for reelection in 2008, whereas Hortman’s seat will be in play if she’s not running.
I agree with Eva…one question how did Bonoff vote on the Stadium - I know Hortman supported raising the sales tax to pay for this private staduim. It’s not that one vote should determine electability - BUT on both ends of the political spectrum people have problems with that. BTW although Geoff Michel worked hard on stadium bills he did not vote for the Twins Stadium because it required raising the sales tax…just something to think about.
Bonoff, Hortmann and Simon all voted for the taxpayer subsidized stadium.
The stadium will not be an issue.
How many incumbants that voted for the stadium lost in 2006? I think the number was zero.
Demure One - Gimme a break. This is a federal office we’re talking about. Please shut up.
The stadium vote was irrelevant in 2006, despite a very loud, very small minority pressing the issue. Two years later, it will matter even less.
“Please shut up?” - Please pull your head out. People want fiscally responsible individuals who won’t buckle to special interests and well the stadium isn’t exactly sailing forward well. Ya think it won’t be an issue in 2008? Ah denial… BTW if you want an issue to go away telling somebody to shut up about it isn’t exactly the way to go.
Both Bonoff and Hortmann voted for the stadium. The votes are going to be a net negative - but I don’t think it’s going to be decisive.
Steve Kelley gets hurt by the stadium because he caved to Finstad and the Governor - and took a plan that really stuck it to the Hennepin County taxpayers.
Polling on the issue showed that 70% opposed public financing.
Jimmy Connors -
All politics is local. Who gets to vote on where we bomb next on the federal level can be decided by the local sales tax.
Personally, I hope Demure One is right, and sales tax support becomes an issue. It would be nice to see people wondering why $300 million was spent on a stadium while the bridges and roads were falling apart. But considering how WCCO could poll people and find majority opposition to a gas tax increase after the bridge went down, I’m not confident. Suburbs often seem to feel that any problem but their own property taxes don’t affect them. Part of me is expecting it all to come down to a spirited exchange on guns, abortion, and immigration.
Great. The jock-hating wing of the DFL is going to knock-out the three best candidates for the 3rd CD - Simon, Hortman, and Bonoff - because they voted to allow the Hennepin Cty. Board to raise its sales tax. Call me when you find a legit candidate for the seat who DIDN’T vote for it. See y’all in the loser’s column. Pathetic.
Wow…where is the confidence and toughness needed to address potential problems? Reality check Jimmy there is no perfect candidate - denying problems and getting bent and pissy when people raise them is ridiculous, not strategic, and well rather dramatic. Jock-hating wing…nah…don’t project man…it’s much more basic; people are tired of having to cough up more cash for billionaires like Carl Pohlad - who by the way put the final nail in the coffin of the Twin Cities Street Car system.
“put the final nail in the coffin of the Twin Cities Street Car system” — - are you trying to be funny, demure one? So, by extension, candidates who supported the stadium were … with Carl on the street car demolition? Not really getting the connection there. But, whatever it is, I think you might have missed the fact that the 5th CD race was last year. This year is the 3rd CD race - you know, the one with moderate swing voters who were generally ambivalent about the stadium and don’t really go for the I-hate-billionaires-BS that works in S. Minneapolis.
Ha! Do you live in the 3rd? I do and during the 2006 I knocked on literally thousands of doors in SD41 - you are hopelessly out of touch. I think a long hard look at demographics would be enlightening. Not everybody is pulling in six figures here… I would say of all the people who I actually was able to talk to maybe 2% were stadium supporters. It’s about education and infrastructure out here…the sound investments that keep economies going over the long-term - Not flashy special interest schemes. Oh and health care - even in the prosperous 3rd people are very concerned. Many see their children or grandchildren going without adequate coverage.
Jimmy Connors comes off as a bit of a jerk, but I have to agree with him on this one. This race is going to be won in the swing areas, like Edina, where this stadium business just isn’t going to play. Demure One and this way out liberal 5th CD stuff is a really good way to marginalize a candidate in the 3rd CD. The liberals will vote for a moderate DFL candidate; the moderate swing voters will not vote for a wild eyed Carl Pohlad hating liberal.
By the way - where did that light rail business come from, Demure One? Weird.
Really - you don’t think the people of Edina care about the stadium business? How did Edina vote in the last election?
Pohlad is connected with the street cars - go to the section on decline at the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_City_Rapid_Transit
I meant that as more of an aside..kind of a gosh people we have been allowing public transport to decline for decades - why are our priorities so out of wack - baseball stadiums not bridges - what the heck?
Connors-
‘Let the Hennepin County board raise its sales tax’. This is Publius, not MDE. We usually don’t drink the GOP’s kool-aid over here. What the legislature did was short circuit a rule and basically impose a sales tax on people who should have had a chance to vote on it, so they would not have to fund the stadium’s tax break by raising revenue at their level. It allowed reps, many of them Republicans, from outside Hennepin county to say ‘I didn’t raise your taxes to pay for the stadium’. It allows T-Paw to go to Iowa in a few years and say ‘I never raised taxes’ and for him to be technically correct.
Mind you, I would say Bonoff, Hortman, and Simon at least deserve credit for the fact that they were voting knowing it would affect their consituents, as opposed to St.Paul, out-state, and most of the suburbs, who were voting to pass the buck.
Though it is going to be a moderate race. Much as a may dislike, the consensus of the people that they will shoulder costs for their entertainment, not their infrastructure. If that’s the framework the race will be run in, I’d say all three could have a shot.
I wrote several letters to the editor to Finstad’s district about this - and pointed out his amoral stance on this - voting to raise my taxes.
I hold Margaret Kelliher, Steve Kelley and Linda Higgins especially responsible for the raw deal we got.
Governor Pawlenty of Tax Increases also deserves ripping on this one. Most Hennepin County legislators voted against this. I had more problems with the legislators who don’t have constituents in Hennepin County - Al Junke, Dean Johnson, Brad Finstad, Laura Brod etc. voting for this.