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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: girlfriend</title>
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		<dc:creator>girlfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hortmann voted for the taxpayer subsidized stadium.</description>
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		<title>By: GOP Optimist</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7152</link>
		<dc:creator>GOP Optimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the interest of full disclosure, I am a Republican--and of course I hope the 3rd stays &quot;red.&quot;

That said, I listened to what Ron Carey said yesterday about the 3rd district race and the money, time and sweat that it will take to win.

I sincerely hope that both parties nominate qualified and serious candidates to compete in this race.

Note to the readers: When I say serious--I mean candidates that can raise a bit of cash, that respect the endorsement process, have a legitimate stance on 3rd District issues and actually have a chance of winning.

[This is a direct juxtaposition to this &quot;Broom-Wellstone&quot; idiocy. You folks here at MN Publius are smart enough to understand how big of a dope this Broom character is.]

My hometown rep is Melissa Hortmann. She is smart, media savvy, will have plenty of fundraising advantages---and presents a legitimate candidate for the suburban mother of district 3 to believe in.

Recently, Hortmann has allowed her own ideology to blind her. By publicly writing and vocally rambling about Global Warming of all things....she alienates voters that only care about how much disposable income they have in their wallets.

Simply stated---taking a hard stand on Global Warming will NOT get anyone any additional votes in district 3. Its a stupid road for Hortmann to go down...she&#039;s smarter than that.

3rd district voters (the suburban vote) want someone to represent them in DC who looks out for their best interests, which more often than not, deal with taxes, the economy and jobs.

Hortmann would be well served to start representing the constituents of 47B and/or MN-3....and stop representing herself.

MN-3 voters obviously don&#039;t want idealogues representing them. How else do we explain Jim Ramstad winning 9 terms??

The idea of Bonoff is certainly interesting. There is another post that mentions how she wouldn&#039;t have to let go of her seat in the legislature in an effort to run. Definately a plus...if you don&#039;t think so---ask Larry Pogemeiller.

Bonoff&#039;s success in a relatively red area of MN indicates that she has a winning formula, and a message that resonates with an undecided voter. She&#039;s no lightweight.

As a conservative, but also an educated voter---I have to admit that both Bonoff and Hortmann pose serious challenges to the GOP effort to keep MN-3 red.

Bottom Line...hopefully BOTH parties nominate candidates that want to make District 3 a better place</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of full disclosure, I am a Republican&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and of course I hope the 3rd stays&nbsp;&#8220;red.&#8221;</p>
<p>That said, I listened to what Ron Carey said yesterday about the 3rd district race and the money, time and sweat that it will take to&nbsp;win.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that both parties nominate qualified and serious candidates to compete in this&nbsp;race.</p>
<p>Note to the readers: When I say serious&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;I mean candidates that can raise a bit of cash, that respect the endorsement process, have a legitimate stance on 3rd District issues and actually have a chance of&nbsp;winning.</p>
<p>[This is a direct juxtaposition to this &#8220;Broom-Wellstone&#8221; idiocy. You folks here at MN Publius are smart enough to understand how big of a dope this Broom character&nbsp;is.]</p>
<p>My hometown rep is Melissa Hortmann. She is smart, media savvy, will have plenty of fundraising advantages&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;-and presents a legitimate candidate for the suburban mother of district 3 to believe&nbsp;in.</p>
<p>Recently, Hortmann has allowed her own ideology to blind her. By publicly writing and vocally rambling about Global Warming of all things&#8230;.she alienates voters that only care about how much disposable income they have in their&nbsp;wallets.</p>
<p>Simply stated&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;-taking a hard stand on Global Warming will NOT get anyone any additional votes in district 3. Its a stupid road for Hortmann to go down&#8230;she&#8217;s smarter than&nbsp;that.</p>
<p>3rd district voters (the suburban vote) want someone to represent them in DC who looks out for their best interests, which more often than not, deal with taxes, the economy and&nbsp;jobs.</p>
<p>Hortmann would be well served to start representing the constituents of 47B and/or MN-3&#8230;.and stop representing&nbsp;herself.</p>
<p>MN-3 voters obviously don&#8217;t want idealogues representing them. How else do we explain Jim Ramstad winning 9&nbsp;terms??</p>
<p>The idea of Bonoff is certainly interesting. There is another post that mentions how she wouldn&#8217;t have to let go of her seat in the legislature in an effort to run. Definately a plus&#8230;if you don&#8217;t think so&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;-ask Larry&nbsp;Pogemeiller.</p>
<p>Bonoff&#8217;s success in a relatively red area of MN indicates that she has a winning formula, and a message that resonates with an undecided voter. She&#8217;s no&nbsp;lightweight.</p>
<p>As a conservative, but also an educated voter&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;-I have to admit that both Bonoff and Hortmann pose serious challenges to the GOP effort to keep MN-3&nbsp;red.</p>
<p>Bottom Line&#8230;hopefully BOTH parties nominate candidates that want to make District 3 a better&nbsp;place</p>
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		<title>By: 43</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7151</link>
		<dc:creator>43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Terri represents the same senate district that Ramstad represented in the State Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Terri represents the same senate district that Ramstad represented in the State&nbsp;Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ski U Mah Gopher</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7150</link>
		<dc:creator>Ski U Mah Gopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terri Bonoff has a couple of advantages:

She is undefeated in a traditionally Republican district (she&#039;s 2-0).

And, she won&#039;t have to give up her seat to run (she&#039;s in the middle of her term).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terri Bonoff has a couple of&nbsp;advantages:</p>
<p>She is undefeated in a traditionally Republican district (she&#8217;s&nbsp;2-0).</p>
<p>And, she won&#8217;t have to give up her seat to run (she&#8217;s in the middle of her&nbsp;term).</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Range</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7149</link>
		<dc:creator>Iron Range</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attn: Sean

Is MN Publius ever going to interview this James Broom Wellstone candidate??

It seems like a fascinating story.

I don&#039;t think he would do what he&#039;s doing without the blessing of the Wellstone family? So why no interview from MN Publius in regards to Wellstone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attn:&nbsp;Sean</p>
<p>Is MN Publius ever going to interview this James Broom Wellstone&nbsp;candidate??</p>
<p>It seems like a fascinating&nbsp;story.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he would do what he&#8217;s doing without the blessing of the Wellstone family? So why no interview from MN Publius in regards to&nbsp;Wellstone?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanuki</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7148</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I think we&#039;re in agreement on most of these folks. I do have to offer up an anecdote about Luger and his &quot;creepy beard&quot; though. He spoke at the AFSCME state convention last year, and when I snuck out for a smoke afterwards, got to listen in on a handful of female attendees gushing (Not a word I use real often, but apt.) about him.

A large part of me can&#039;t believe I just typed that out. As many people have said on this thread, that&#039;s politics. JFK won because he wore make-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I think we&#8217;re in agreement on most of these folks. I do have to offer up an anecdote about Luger and his &#8220;creepy beard&#8221; though. He spoke at the AFSCME state convention last year, and when I snuck out for a smoke afterwards, got to listen in on a handful of female attendees gushing (Not a word I use real often, but apt.) about&nbsp;him.</p>
<p>A large part of me can&#8217;t believe I just typed that out. As many people have said on this thread, that&#8217;s politics. JFK won because he wore&nbsp;make-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Eva Young</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7147</link>
		<dc:creator>Eva Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d think Terri Bonoff would be the stronger candidate comparing Hortman and Bonoff.  Bonoff has a better fiscally moderate voting record.  Bonoff got Chamber of Commerce endorsement in the last race.  That&#039;s a big thing for a democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think Terri Bonoff would be the stronger candidate comparing Hortman and Bonoff.  Bonoff has a better fiscally moderate voting record.  Bonoff got Chamber of Commerce endorsement in the last race.  That&#8217;s a big thing for a&nbsp;democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Demure One</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7146</link>
		<dc:creator>Demure One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And even when they win they loose because they put people in office who aren&#039;t strong enough or dedicated enough to support fundamental concepts in the party platform - they back show horses and then wonder why their elected officials don&#039;t vote the way they thought they would. Auughh!! Can you imagine the party GOPers will have if it&#039;s Humphrey for US House and Franken for US Senate - &quot;The Buck and Al Show&quot; ..Buck and Al...Buck n&#039;Al *#@$uck in Hell.. sorry...not feeling particularly &quot;demure&quot; right now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even when they win they loose because they put people in office who aren&#8217;t strong enough or dedicated enough to support fundamental concepts in the party platform - they back show horses and then wonder why their elected officials don&#8217;t vote the way they thought they would. Auughh!! Can you imagine the party GOPers will have if it&#8217;s Humphrey for US House and Franken for US Senate - &#8220;The Buck and Al Show&#8221; ..Buck and Al&#8230;Buck n&#8217;Al *#@$uck in Hell.. sorry&#8230;not feeling particularly &#8220;demure&#8221; right&nbsp;now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/the-rumble-to-replace-ramstad/#comment-7145</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demure One,

As you can see the power brokers in training do not care at all about actual democracy.  They care about pushing the right pieces into the right places to gain a seat and hopefully advance the careers of a few party loyalists.  The Republicans work the same way and are going through the same conversations right now.  It is fine to play the game as long as the big picture, representing the people of the 3rd, is not forgotten.  Unfortunately Democrats have been notoriously bad at figuring that out before picking a candidate.  In part because they look at candidates from only the perspective of their loyal base and not the general public.  With that attitude they will rightfully continue to loose elections they could otherwise win.  Their only saving grace is the Republicans are no better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demure&nbsp;One,</p>
<p>As you can see the power brokers in training do not care at all about actual democracy.  They care about pushing the right pieces into the right places to gain a seat and hopefully advance the careers of a few party loyalists.  The Republicans work the same way and are going through the same conversations right now.  It is fine to play the game as long as the big picture, representing the people of the 3rd, is not forgotten.  Unfortunately Democrats have been notoriously bad at figuring that out before picking a candidate.  In part because they look at candidates from only the perspective of their loyal base and not the general public.  With that attitude they will rightfully continue to loose elections they could otherwise win.  Their only saving grace is the Republicans are no&nbsp;better.</p>
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