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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7035</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

To answer your question, no it does not make me proud to see Democrats acting like arrogant righties.

BTW here's what it would look like if I called you stupid.

"Chris, you are a moonbat."

As far as how "over the top" I am, I hate to remind you, but there are millions of people who you would say are over the top by your shallow definition. I haven't threatened violence against anyone here, however you rightie trolls seem to enjoy delivering veiled threats here. I recall a certain someone who wanted to douse the next liberal he sees on the street with lighter fluid. That's a bit over the top, isn't it. Or your assertion some time ago that "you can understand why someone would shoot my van". Someone would be driving that van, you know. My kids would be in that van, possibly.

Your party's hatred of gays and liberals over the last 6 years oversaturated right wing radio and news stories that I see in the Tribune all the time. KK is a perfect example of that. Your party has not even started to hide that hate, and in fact, is turning it up again in a desparate attempt to win the next election.

But again you miss my main point.

Your tactics, the same ones you use here, helped get Bush elected. You worked very hard putting the worst President we've ever had in office.

Are you proud that Bush was elected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>To answer your question, no it does not make me proud to see Democrats acting like arrogant righties.</p>
<p>BTW here&#8217;s what it would look like if I called you stupid.</p>
<p>&#8220;Chris, you are a moonbat.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as how &#8220;over the top&#8221; I am, I hate to remind you, but there are millions of people who you would say are over the top by your shallow definition. I haven&#8217;t threatened violence against anyone here, however you rightie trolls seem to enjoy delivering veiled threats here. I recall a certain someone who wanted to douse the next liberal he sees on the street with lighter fluid. That&#8217;s a bit over the top, isn&#8217;t it. Or your assertion some time ago that &#8220;you can understand why someone would shoot my van&#8221;. Someone would be driving that van, you know. My kids would be in that van, possibly.</p>
<p>Your party&#8217;s hatred of gays and liberals over the last 6 years oversaturated right wing radio and news stories that I see in the Tribune all the time. KK is a perfect example of that. Your party has not even started to hide that hate, and in fact, is turning it up again in a desparate attempt to win the next election.</p>
<p>But again you miss my main point.</p>
<p>Your tactics, the same ones you use here, helped get Bush elected. You worked very hard putting the worst President we&#8217;ve ever had in office.</p>
<p>Are you proud that Bush was&nbsp;elected?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7034</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitro,

I never called you stupid.  I believe that in this latest exchange, you called me stupid at least twice.  I don't understand why you cannot make a point without calling names, but that seems to be your M.O.

As for the substance of your comments, stolen signs seems to be par for the course in an election.  You claim a ton of Kerry signs were stolen, and that may be true.  In Minnesota, several Republican candidates, including Judy Johnson, filed police reports because a very large number of their signs were stolen.  And let us not forget Phyllis Kahn who was caught stealing literature of Republican candidates from doorsteps.  Kahn plead guilty to theft over the incidents.  Does that make you proud, Nitro???

As for right wing hate speech, I don't even know where to begin Nitro.  Your own speech has been so over the top, I can't even believe you would claim such phony outrage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitro,</p>
<p>I never called you stupid.  I believe that in this latest exchange, you called me stupid at least twice.  I don&#8217;t understand why you cannot make a point without calling names, but that seems to be your M.O.</p>
<p>As for the substance of your comments, stolen signs seems to be par for the course in an election.  You claim a ton of Kerry signs were stolen, and that may be true.  In Minnesota, several Republican candidates, including Judy Johnson, filed police reports because a very large number of their signs were stolen.  And let us not forget Phyllis Kahn who was caught stealing literature of Republican candidates from doorsteps.  Kahn plead guilty to theft over the incidents.  Does that make you proud, Nitro???</p>
<p>As for right wing hate speech, I don&#8217;t even know where to begin Nitro.  Your own speech has been so over the top, I can&#8217;t even believe you would claim such phony&nbsp;outrage.</p>
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		<title>By: wtm</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7033</link>
		<dc:creator>wtm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the last ten to twelve years, the MN House has been at parity, sans the two outlying years -- 2002 and 2006 -- when one party gained a super-sized majority in a non-presidential cycle.

Since no two political cycles are the same, I'd be very, very surprised if the Democrats maintain an 80  majority in the House after 2008.  Parity will return, especially now that the electorate has gotten a good sense again of how Democrats govern (see high taxes, more spending).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last ten to twelve years, the MN House has been at parity, sans the two outlying years&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;2002 and 2006&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;when one party gained a super-sized majority in a non-presidential cycle.</p>
<p>Since no two political cycles are the same, I&#8217;d be very, very surprised if the Democrats maintain an 80  majority in the House after 2008.  Parity will return, especially now that the electorate has gotten a good sense again of how Democrats govern (see high taxes, more&nbsp;spending).</p>
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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7032</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

"Nitro, you and Richard can hate all you want and I encourage you to get on television and the radio and elsewhere to get your message out. "

Yet,....you're not embarassed by your own party's hate that we've had directed at us for 6 years? I think everyone in America has overdosed on right wing hate speech and faked outrage.

Gimme a damn break. It's time you stopped thinking we're all idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>&#8220;Nitro, you and Richard can hate all you want and I encourage you to get on television and the radio and elsewhere to get your message out. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yet,&#8230;.you&#8217;re not embarassed by your own party&#8217;s hate that we&#8217;ve had directed at us for 6 years? I think everyone in America has overdosed on right wing hate speech and faked outrage.</p>
<p>Gimme a damn break. It&#8217;s time you stopped thinking we&#8217;re all&nbsp;idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7031</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

There were plenty of signs stolen on both sides, and one again my point goes over your head, idiot. Don't think I don't know about the cases you point out. I do read.

My point was, all that extreme effort with your reputations on the line, and you got Bush. Are you proud of it?

I'd be embarassed if I was you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>There were plenty of signs stolen on both sides, and one again my point goes over your head, idiot. Don&#8217;t think I don&#8217;t know about the cases you point out. I do read.</p>
<p>My point was, all that extreme effort with your reputations on the line, and you got Bush. Are you proud of it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be embarassed if I was&nbsp;you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7021</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both the Left and the Right need to shut their mouths and listen to the voices of the people.  We are all caught up into the Horse Race and the Party Politics that everything we all care about is swept under the rug so that we can throw a punch at the other guys/girls, take a step back and look at yourselves for a minute. Truthfully I am a self described moderate Democrat, but lets level the arguments and get to the core topics, as to Richard, President Bush is not a facist or a murderer, come on buddy get with it, that slanderous language that will get you in trouble one day let me tell you, he is a good man that cares deeply for this country and all the people serving in our armed forces, this coming from a voter that did not vote for him and does not support any of his policies.  As for Chris, you can stay up at night and wish that we (Democrats) are going back to the days of McGovern and the Hippies of the 70's and that your party is going to turn out in droves next year, but once again lets get real.  This country's demographics and opinions are changing and the GOP is going to feel that next year, like it or not, you can keep saying that the Congress has a lower apporval than Bush, which is true, but blame always goes to the executive, its more difficult to blame 535 seperate people when you can just blame one, the President.  The GOP voter, I predict will not turnout again because of their dismal presidential field, I rather like a few of them, however all of the front runners in the GOP do not share opinions on key issues of the GOP voters and will hurt them in the fall and no one in the field can come close to par at raising funds compared to the Democratic side.
Alright I have said my peice go ahead and ignore the plead for less hatered and more constructive conversation, go ahead its what everyone is unfortunately expecting.
good blog by the way, good job sean and any others who help run it.
-Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the Left and the Right need to shut their mouths and listen to the voices of the people.  We are all caught up into the Horse Race and the Party Politics that everything we all care about is swept under the rug so that we can throw a punch at the other guys/girls, take a step back and look at yourselves for a minute. Truthfully I am a self described moderate Democrat, but lets level the arguments and get to the core topics, as to Richard, President Bush is not a facist or a murderer, come on buddy get with it, that slanderous language that will get you in trouble one day let me tell you, he is a good man that cares deeply for this country and all the people serving in our armed forces, this coming from a voter that did not vote for him and does not support any of his policies.  As for Chris, you can stay up at night and wish that we (Democrats) are going back to the days of McGovern and the Hippies of the 70&#8217;s and that your party is going to turn out in droves next year, but once again lets get real.  This country&#8217;s demographics and opinions are changing and the GOP is going to feel that next year, like it or not, you can keep saying that the Congress has a lower apporval than Bush, which is true, but blame always goes to the executive, its more difficult to blame 535 seperate people when you can just blame one, the President.  The GOP voter, I predict will not turnout again because of their dismal presidential field, I rather like a few of them, however all of the front runners in the GOP do not share opinions on key issues of the GOP voters and will hurt them in the fall and no one in the field can come close to par at raising funds compared to the Democratic side.<br />
Alright I have said my peice go ahead and ignore the plead for less hatered and more constructive conversation, go ahead its what everyone is unfortunately expecting.<br />
good blog by the way, good job sean and any others who help run it.&nbsp;-Ross</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7030</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitro,

I don't give a hoot in hell why you're mad.  Your hate is legendary on this web site, let alone your own.  As for this crap that Bush people stole Kerry signs, let me refer you to the criminal case in Wisconsin where the son of a Democratic Congresswoman was charged with slashing the tires of vans rented by the Bush campaign to drive elderly supporters (and others unable to drive themselves) to the polls.

http://www.courttv.com/trials/omokunde/011006_ctv.html

Nitro, you and Richard can hate all you want and I encourage you to get on television and the radio and elsewhere to get your message out.  I am confident that when average people hear your vitriol, we'll see the McGovern trouncing of 1972 repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitro,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give a hoot in hell why you&#8217;re mad.  Your hate is legendary on this web site, let alone your own.  As for this crap that Bush people stole Kerry signs, let me refer you to the criminal case in Wisconsin where the son of a Democratic Congresswoman was charged with slashing the tires of vans rented by the Bush campaign to drive elderly supporters (and others unable to drive themselves) to the polls.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.courttv.com/trials/omokunde/011006_ctv.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.courttv.com/trials/omokunde/011006_ctv.html</a></p>
<p>Nitro, you and Richard can hate all you want and I encourage you to get on television and the radio and elsewhere to get your message out.  I am confident that when average people hear your vitriol, we&#8217;ll see the McGovern trouncing of 1972&nbsp;repeated.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7017</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

You are half right.  Republicans were mad in 2006.  But they didn't vote for Democrats, they stayed home.  They were mad because when Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress from 2004-06, they didn't accomplish anything and they spent even more than Democrats did.  Independents broke for Democrats in 2006, largely because of the Mark Foley scandal and other reasons, including general unpopularity of the Iraq war.

But, as we've seen recently, the Democrats in Congress have an approval rating that's half that of Bush's.  I do not think people are buying into the vitriol that challenges the patriotism of the highest ranking General in the field.  I think the Democrats are very close to becoming the party of George McGovern redux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>You are half right.  Republicans were mad in 2006.  But they didn&#8217;t vote for Democrats, they stayed home.  They were mad because when Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress from 2004-06, they didn&#8217;t accomplish anything and they spent even more than Democrats did.  Independents broke for Democrats in 2006, largely because of the Mark Foley scandal and other reasons, including general unpopularity of the Iraq war.</p>
<p>But, as we&#8217;ve seen recently, the Democrats in Congress have an approval rating that&#8217;s half that of Bush&#8217;s.  I do not think people are buying into the vitriol that challenges the patriotism of the highest ranking General in the field.  I think the Democrats are very close to becoming the party of George McGovern&nbsp;redux.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7029</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question.

We won a ton of state house and senate in districts that vote Republican normally.  Did anyone ever compare the turn out in 2002 and 2006 in these races.  Did we win because Republicans were fed up with Republicans and voted Democrat.  Or is there a drop off in voter turn out on the Republican side that boosted the Democrats just enough to win.

Example, my guy is Tom Emmer, lucky right.

Lets say Tom won with 12500 votes in 2002.  His Democrat opponent got 12200 votes.  In 2006, Tom got 12000 votes while the Democrats still got 12200 votes.  Democrat won by 200 votes, we celebrate.

With this, it doesnt show any more people voting Democrat, it only shows Republicans staying home because of the national GOP picture.  In 2008, Republicans will vote, its a presidential year, they will vote.  Will then Tom get back up to that 12500 number and get back his seat?

I'd look this up but I'm lazy and I'm sure this was done like Nov 9th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question.</p>
<p>We won a ton of state house and senate in districts that vote Republican normally.  Did anyone ever compare the turn out in 2002 and 2006 in these races.  Did we win because Republicans were fed up with Republicans and voted Democrat.  Or is there a drop off in voter turn out on the Republican side that boosted the Democrats just enough to win.</p>
<p>Example, my guy is Tom Emmer, lucky right.</p>
<p>Lets say Tom won with 12500 votes in 2002.  His Democrat opponent got 12200 votes.  In 2006, Tom got 12000 votes while the Democrats still got 12200 votes.  Democrat won by 200 votes, we celebrate.</p>
<p>With this, it doesnt show any more people voting Democrat, it only shows Republicans staying home because of the national GOP picture.  In 2008, Republicans will vote, its a presidential year, they will vote.  Will then Tom get back up to that 12500 number and get back his seat?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d look this up but I&#8217;m lazy and I&#8217;m sure this was done like Nov&nbsp;9th.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7020</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I'm to understand that if I continue to call the president a murdering fascist deserter, the rest of the country will decide waging an illegal war for no reason is okay.  The rest of the country will decide that that prosperity of the top 2 percent outweighs the financial needs of the other 98 percent.  The rest of the country will decide that the president can be thoroughly corrupt and incompetent just so long as nobody is calling him names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m to understand that if I continue to call the president a murdering fascist deserter, the rest of the country will decide waging an illegal war for no reason is okay.  The rest of the country will decide that that prosperity of the top 2 percent outweighs the financial needs of the other 98 percent.  The rest of the country will decide that the president can be thoroughly corrupt and incompetent just so long as nobody is calling him&nbsp;names.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7028</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

The only ones turned off by this are dumb people like yourself. We have dealt with YOUR hate for quite a while now. We'll see what the American people think about all of this very soon, won't we.

It's all so Summer 2004, you know. Look what all that HARD WORK you righties did that Summer, all of your reputations on the line, and you got Bush for it. Good lord I'd be embarassed if I stole Kerry yard signs and comitted other crimes to get that guy back in office. Just think of all the Christmas dinners nationwide that were ruined by arrogant talking points.

Predict all you want what you think is going to happen, however, it's the Republicans who's credibility is completely destroyed. All the predictions and half truths and bashing of the left has left a sad trail of corruption and incompetence, and pissed off people on the left.

Is there anyone on the far right who asks WHY we are mad?.....Nope.

Oh well..... We're moving forward. Tag, you're not it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>The only ones turned off by this are dumb people like yourself. We have dealt with YOUR hate for quite a while now. We&#8217;ll see what the American people think about all of this very soon, won&#8217;t we.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all so Summer 2004, you know. Look what all that HARD WORK you righties did that Summer, all of your reputations on the line, and you got Bush for it. Good lord I&#8217;d be embarassed if I stole Kerry yard signs and comitted other crimes to get that guy back in office. Just think of all the Christmas dinners nationwide that were ruined by arrogant talking points.</p>
<p>Predict all you want what you think is going to happen, however, it&#8217;s the Republicans who&#8217;s credibility is completely destroyed. All the predictions and half truths and bashing of the left has left a sad trail of corruption and incompetence, and pissed off people on the left.</p>
<p>Is there anyone on the far right who asks WHY we are mad?&#8230;..Nope.</p>
<p>Oh well&#8230;.. We&#8217;re moving forward. Tag, you&#8217;re not&nbsp;it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7027</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

Accusing the President of murdering our troops is very pathetic.  Just as pathetic as the people who accused General Petraeus of being a traitor to our country.  But keep up the hate Richard, because let there be no doubt that the haters like you are going to turn off the rest of the country next year - just as happened in 1972.  Can you say George McGovern?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Accusing the President of murdering our troops is very pathetic.  Just as pathetic as the people who accused General Petraeus of being a traitor to our country.  But keep up the hate Richard, because let there be no doubt that the haters like you are going to turn off the rest of the country next year - just as happened in 1972.  Can you say George&nbsp;McGovern?</p>
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		<title>By: purpleblogdog</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7019</link>
		<dc:creator>purpleblogdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that is true, and the legislature is filled with more giants like your Kalins, Tschumpers, and Gardners, we will see pass in Minnesota what almost passed in Wisconsin.  A near doubling of the budget on a payrole tax to take over healthcare.  It will take about twenty minutes to get balance back.


Hopefully you are wrong and we can achieve balance without killing jobs.  Most elections are non tidal, and have more to do with the candidates.  I do think that is what we will see in 08, but it is a long way off and nobody knows what will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that is true, and the legislature is filled with more giants like your Kalins, Tschumpers, and Gardners, we will see pass in Minnesota what almost passed in Wisconsin.  A near doubling of the budget on a payrole tax to take over healthcare.  It will take about twenty minutes to get balance back.</p>
<p>Hopefully you are wrong and we can achieve balance without killing jobs.  Most elections are non tidal, and have more to do with the candidates.  I do think that is what we will see in 08, but it is a long way off and nobody knows what will&nbsp;happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOP candidates that go along with the president's policies up to the election will be thrown out by the 70% who see these policies for the insanity that they are.  GOP candidates who run as swiftly as they can away from Bush will be seen by the electorate as cowards and idiots.  The GOP is in a lose/lose situation and it will take 20 years for them to regain anything like credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOP candidates that go along with the president&#8217;s policies up to the election will be thrown out by the 70% who see these policies for the insanity that they are.  GOP candidates who run as swiftly as they can away from Bush will be seen by the electorate as cowards and idiots.  The GOP is in a lose/lose situation and it will take 20 years for them to regain anything like&nbsp;credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleblogdog</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7025</link>
		<dc:creator>purpleblogdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2006 elections did match up some odd pairings of representatives with their districts.  North Oaks, Shorview, Woodbury and elsewhere are represented by folks who vote with Minneapolis liberals and against their constituents.  2008 will be less about party and more about authenticity.  There will be a lot of splainen to do by both Republicans who act like Democrats and Democrats who said they were going to be conservative.

Greenspan was right about President Bush's mistakes and Republicans have paid.  I liked the quote "they traded principle for power and got neither".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2006 elections did match up some odd pairings of representatives with their districts.  North Oaks, Shorview, Woodbury and elsewhere are represented by folks who vote with Minneapolis liberals and against their constituents.  2008 will be less about party and more about authenticity.  There will be a lot of splainen to do by both Republicans who act like Democrats and Democrats who said they were going to be conservative.</p>
<p>Greenspan was right about President Bush&#8217;s mistakes and Republicans have paid.  I liked the quote &#8220;they traded principle for power and got&nbsp;neither&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7024</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know why it doesn't occur to many Republicans that opposition to President Bush is not (just) personal.

Because they're just not that bright.  They impeach a president for consensual sex but not one for murdering 4000 US servicepeople.  There's some Republican support for the troops for ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why it doesn&#8217;t occur to many Republicans that opposition to President Bush is not (just) personal.</p>
<p>Because they&#8217;re just not that bright.  They impeach a president for consensual sex but not one for murdering 4000 US servicepeople.  There&#8217;s some Republican support for the troops for&nbsp;ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7023</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know why it doesn't occur to many Republicans that opposition to President Bush is not (just) personal.  Did they ever stop to think it could be his policies that generate the opposition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why it doesn&#8217;t occur to many Republicans that opposition to President Bush is not (just) personal.  Did they ever stop to think it could be his policies that generate the&nbsp;opposition?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7022</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush may not be on the ticket but his policies are.  The GOP will have a very difficult time separating itself from the failed and disasterous policies they've been supporting for 8 years.  Wardlow, Eastlund, and others are in deep deep trouble.  On the national stage, Coleman and Bachmann are going to be defeated by the DFL and by their own incapability to be anything other then partisan patsies who have sold their souls to the neocons.  In '06 we were able to replace Neinow with Olseen and Nelson with Kalin.  In '08 there will most assurdedly be further gains and we will be able to begin repairing the damage that the Neocon fascists have done to our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush may not be on the ticket but his policies are.  The GOP will have a very difficult time separating itself from the failed and disasterous policies they&#8217;ve been supporting for 8 years.  Wardlow, Eastlund, and others are in deep deep trouble.  On the national stage, Coleman and Bachmann are going to be defeated by the DFL and by their own incapability to be anything other then partisan patsies who have sold their souls to the neocons.  In &#8216;06 we were able to replace Neinow with Olseen and Nelson with Kalin.  In &#8216;08 there will most assurdedly be further gains and we will be able to begin repairing the damage that the Neocon fascists have done to our&nbsp;country.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleblogdog</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7016</link>
		<dc:creator>purpleblogdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for Pete's sake.  That's the only close one the DFL lost.  Davids, Krinkie, Cox, and Wilkin all lost by fewer than 60 votes.  There were a lot more closer than this I think.   Without Bush on the ballot, they all win.  Unless they undo that two term limit for President, there will not be a Bush on the ticket this time.  There will be a Clinton and a Franken though.  Good luck with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for Pete&#8217;s sake.  That&#8217;s the only close one the DFL lost.  Davids, Krinkie, Cox, and Wilkin all lost by fewer than 60 votes.  There were a lot more closer than this I think.   Without Bush on the ballot, they all win.  Unless they undo that two term limit for President, there will not be a Bush on the ticket this time.  There will be a Clinton and a Franken though.  Good luck with&nbsp;that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ioannes Magnumus</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/09/vote-no-on-wardlow/#comment-7018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ioannes Magnumus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All he needed last time was someone who knew what they were doing to run his campaign.  So close, but maybe next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All he needed last time was someone who knew what they were doing to run his campaign.  So close, but maybe next&nbsp;time.</p>
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