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	<title>Comments on: This Time With Feeling: JNPizzle Announces</title>
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		<title>By: Grace Kelly</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/10/this-time-with-feeling-jnpizzle-announces/#comment-8061</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sarcasm)

Gosh if we hadn&#039;t gone to Afghanistan, then we would not have caught Osama bin Laden nor crushed Al Queda nor stopped Afghanistan from growing drugs! Ooops I guess that didn&#039;t happen, so why did we go the Afghanistan? Oh because two planes made 3 buildings fall in New York on 9/11, Each building fell as fast as a falling rock, straight down, from plane impact and from fire damage. And we know that Al Queda caused 9/11 because we have the Al Queda bodies to prove it, right? What ever happened to that high tech air force that is supposed to scramble a moments notice - 4 airplanes got through. So instead fixing our security, we invaded Afghanistan.

After we invaded Afghanistan, we attacked Iraq because obviously even though they were Shia, they were linked to Sunni in Al Queda (see same sentence - linked).

And even though the US gave the nuclear bomb to a bunch of countries, we have to invade Iran because Iran might have the bomb in ten years or so! Just because military force has been so successful for us. Congress just passed a resolution that that could be interpreted as a war authorization for Iran. After all, we have so many people who just really want to be in the military!

Hmmm, so maybe -just maybe- war should be the last resort, not our first choice? Or do we need a few more wars to figure that out?

So Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer is politician who from the start has told us that there were other better peaceful ways of achieving our goals! A few commenters just off handedly dismissed that - might be just Republican commenters. Maybe if we would have worked with countries using peaceful means, we would have stopped Al Queda, captured Osama bin Laden, have stability in Iraq and gosh, have a trillion dollars to spend on education, bridges and infrastructure.

Hmmm maybe the methods of peace are worth looking at?</description>
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<p>Gosh if we hadn&#8217;t gone to Afghanistan, then we would not have caught Osama bin Laden nor crushed Al Queda nor stopped Afghanistan from growing drugs! Ooops I guess that didn&#8217;t happen, so why did we go the Afghanistan? Oh because two planes made 3 buildings fall in New York on 9/11, Each building fell as fast as a falling rock, straight down, from plane impact and from fire damage. And we know that Al Queda caused 9/11 because we have the Al Queda bodies to prove it, right? What ever happened to that high tech air force that is supposed to scramble a moments notice - 4 airplanes got through. So instead fixing our security, we invaded&nbsp;Afghanistan.</p>
<p>After we invaded Afghanistan, we attacked Iraq because obviously even though they were Shia, they were linked to Sunni in Al Queda (see same sentence -&nbsp;linked).</p>
<p>And even though the US gave the nuclear bomb to a bunch of countries, we have to invade Iran because Iran might have the bomb in ten years or so! Just because military force has been so successful for us. Congress just passed a resolution that that could be interpreted as a war authorization for Iran. After all, we have so many people who just really want to be in the&nbsp;military!</p>
<p>Hmmm, so maybe -just maybe- war should be the last resort, not our first choice? Or do we need a few more wars to figure that&nbsp;out?</p>
<p>So Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer is politician who from the start has told us that there were other better peaceful ways of achieving our goals! A few commenters just off handedly dismissed that - might be just Republican commenters. Maybe if we would have worked with countries using peaceful means, we would have stopped Al Queda, captured Osama bin Laden, have stability in Iraq and gosh, have a trillion dollars to spend on education, bridges and&nbsp;infrastructure.</p>
<p>Hmmm maybe the methods of peace are worth looking&nbsp;at?</p>
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		<title>By: John S</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/10/this-time-with-feeling-jnpizzle-announces/#comment-8071</link>
		<dc:creator>John S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Matt - there have been several discussion describing the difference between CD5 and the rest of the state of Minnesota.

What&#039;s more interesting about him is this. He will be knocked out. Period, end of sentence. But when will he be knocked out?

In CD5, there was an obvious candidate for JNP to pass the torch to early in the DFL nominating process. Here, not so much. Mike Ciresi has far better anti-war credentials. But he also has been active in the real world doing real things, and that tends to make one un-appealing to the peace community.

Franken on the other hand, is an entertainer who&#039;s had license to say whatever he feels - often with the aggressiveness that the peace community takes for principle. But he at one time supported the invasion. Big no-no.

So, here&#039;s the question: does Pallmeyer get knocked out after convention, or does he ride it out to the primary? And if he rides it out to the primary, who does that help at the convention both of the real candidates have pledged to let decide it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Matt - there have been several discussion describing the difference between CD5 and the rest of the state of&nbsp;Minnesota.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more interesting about him is this. He will be knocked out. Period, end of sentence. But when will he be knocked&nbsp;out?</p>
<p>In CD5, there was an obvious candidate for JNP to pass the torch to early in the DFL nominating process. Here, not so much. Mike Ciresi has far better anti-war credentials. But he also has been active in the real world doing real things, and that tends to make one un-appealing to the peace&nbsp;community.</p>
<p>Franken on the other hand, is an entertainer who&#8217;s had license to say whatever he feels - often with the aggressiveness that the peace community takes for principle. But he at one time supported the invasion. Big&nbsp;no-no.</p>
<p>So, here&#8217;s the question: does Pallmeyer get knocked out after convention, or does he ride it out to the primary? And if he rides it out to the primary, who does that help at the convention both of the real candidates have pledged to let decide&nbsp;it?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/10/this-time-with-feeling-jnpizzle-announces/#comment-8070</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Too bad folks making comments about the announcement weren&#039;t at the announcement itself. (The Big E gets a pass here, given his modest proposal that we respect a candidate who played a significant role in last year&#039;s CD5 race)

The announcement was pretty great. Pallmeyer gave a great speech, and delivered a powerful message of courage and hope on the environment, education, health care, poverty, and the war. He had key electeds and former electeds lined up with him, and put about 100 people to work on the spot calling delegates from the 2006 state convention.

There are lots of folks who aren&#039;t satisfied with the two candidates who jumped in early. They&#039;re waiting to be persuaded, and especially in the listening sessions and one to one conversation&#039;s he&#039;s had, Jack&#039;s been very persuasive. This race just got interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Too bad folks making comments about the announcement weren&#8217;t at the announcement itself. (The Big E gets a pass here, given his modest proposal that we respect a candidate who played a significant role in last year&#8217;s CD5&nbsp;race)</p>
<p>The announcement was pretty great. Pallmeyer gave a great speech, and delivered a powerful message of courage and hope on the environment, education, health care, poverty, and the war. He had key electeds and former electeds lined up with him, and put about 100 people to work on the spot calling delegates from the 2006 state&nbsp;convention.</p>
<p>There are lots of folks who aren&#8217;t satisfied with the two candidates who jumped in early. They&#8217;re waiting to be persuaded, and especially in the listening sessions and one to one conversation&#8217;s he&#8217;s had, Jack&#8217;s been very persuasive. This race just got&nbsp;interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Cugino_Dick</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/10/this-time-with-feeling-jnpizzle-announces/#comment-8069</link>
		<dc:creator>Cugino_Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prediction: Pallmeyer is in-line to succeed Dick Franson as the DFL&#039;s favorite perennial candidate. Which just goes to show how the role of perennial needs to be revamped. Franson, at least, has a sense of humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prediction: Pallmeyer is in-line to succeed Dick Franson as the DFL&#8217;s favorite perennial candidate. Which just goes to show how the role of perennial needs to be revamped. Franson, at least, has a sense of&nbsp;humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No pig roasts (or bean feeds as far as I know) in 64.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No pig roasts (or bean feeds as far as I know) in&nbsp;64.</p>
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		<title>By: John S</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is over already.

Beanfeed is more traditional. There are some Senate Districts who roast a whole pig. Its usually delicious beyonds words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is over&nbsp;already.</p>
<p>Beanfeed is more traditional. There are some Senate Districts who roast a whole pig. Its usually delicious beyonds&nbsp;words.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/10/this-time-with-feeling-jnpizzle-announces/#comment-8066</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Pallmeyer opposed the Afghanistan war, he can just go home.  Its over already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Pallmeyer opposed the Afghanistan war, he can just go home.  Its over&nbsp;already.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to find something that would get my views anywhere near a candidate who is so knee jerk he didn&#039;t support the war in Afghanistan.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to find something that would get my views anywhere near a candidate who is so knee jerk he didn&#8217;t support the war in&nbsp;Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be a spaghetti feed then?  Do you eat anything but beans?  Hot dogs maybe?  Do they have bean feeds in St. Paul?  Or is it just a country thing?  Is the farting part of the event?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be a spaghetti feed then?  Do you eat anything but beans?  Hot dogs maybe?  Do they have bean feeds in St. Paul?  Or is it just a country thing?  Is the farting part of the&nbsp;event?</p>
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		<title>By: MMmmmm Racism</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMmmmm Racism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please just promise me that he&#039;ll change the website. The greatest generation? Seriously...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please just promise me that he&#8217;ll change the website. The greatest generation?&nbsp;Seriously&#8230;</p>
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