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		<title>By: Big Kahuna</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9613</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Kahuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Spider Pig but those other site do not claim to &quot;Track the Status of MN politics&quot; so that the casual reader could think the site is not bias.

Which by Sean&#039;s own admission above proves that this is a bias site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Spider Pig but those other site do not claim to &#8220;Track the Status of MN politics&#8221; so that the casual reader could think the site is not&nbsp;bias.</p>
<p>Which by Sean&#8217;s own admission above proves that this is a bias&nbsp;site.</p>
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		<title>By: SPIDER PIG</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9615</link>
		<dc:creator>SPIDER PIG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog has subjective views?

Hang your heads in shame MNpublius, there are other blogs out there that only present their views in a unbiased fash...

wait, never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog has subjective&nbsp;views?</p>
<p>Hang your heads in shame MNpublius, there are other blogs out there that only present their views in a unbiased&nbsp;fash&#8230;</p>
<p>wait, never&nbsp;mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9625</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

Honestly my knowledge of how you were connected to Franken was based on a weak memory of a post many months ago giving kudos to JD for his work and didn&#039;t remember his name until you mentioned it.  It seems as though you have made no effort (other than a line on the &quot;about&quot; page saying he is on sabbatical in order to keep the blog objective) to make any sort of continuing disclosure on the matter.  The fact you note the blog has failed to stay objective is disappointing, if honest, admission.  An admission that should be interesting to the non-Franken supporters, those looking for information and casual readers of this site.

While you pretend to be open to posting any positive information on any Democrat on this site this post makes it obvious what you mean.  Headlines like &quot;JNP Gets What He Deserves&quot; should give any Democratic candidate pause before trusting you.  The body of your post makes it clear that it is simply damning him with faint praise at best.  It is a post that would be right at home on MDE except it doesn&#039;t contain any original information.

While I would never expect you to provide balanced and objective coverage across party lines I have a feeling many here felt there were different and higher standards for discussions about those within the Democratic party.  If you feel the purpose of this blog is as much to promote one Democrat over another as it is Democrats over republicans you should let that be known.

In the end you are probably right about having the wrong blog.  This one it seems is just a front for you to promote candidates who are paying for it at the expense of any honest dialog.  It may not be your responsibility to present an even handed view of the different Democratic candidates but it is a part of how this blog is viewed.  I hope anybody else who held the same impression I did understands their mistake.  Especially those who may have views that may not benefit your career or that of your friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>Honestly my knowledge of how you were connected to Franken was based on a weak memory of a post many months ago giving kudos to JD for his work and didn&#8217;t remember his name until you mentioned it.  It seems as though you have made no effort (other than a line on the &#8220;about&#8221; page saying he is on sabbatical in order to keep the blog objective) to make any sort of continuing disclosure on the matter.  The fact you note the blog has failed to stay objective is disappointing, if honest, admission.  An admission that should be interesting to the non-Franken supporters, those looking for information and casual readers of this&nbsp;site.</p>
<p>While you pretend to be open to posting any positive information on any Democrat on this site this post makes it obvious what you mean.  Headlines like &#8220;JNP Gets What He Deserves&#8221; should give any Democratic candidate pause before trusting you.  The body of your post makes it clear that it is simply damning him with faint praise at best.  It is a post that would be right at home on MDE except it doesn&#8217;t contain any original&nbsp;information.</p>
<p>While I would never expect you to provide balanced and objective coverage across party lines I have a feeling many here felt there were different and higher standards for discussions about those within the Democratic party.  If you feel the purpose of this blog is as much to promote one Democrat over another as it is Democrats over republicans you should let that be&nbsp;known.</p>
<p>In the end you are probably right about having the wrong blog.  This one it seems is just a front for you to promote candidates who are paying for it at the expense of any honest dialog.  It may not be your responsibility to present an even handed view of the different Democratic candidates but it is a part of how this blog is viewed.  I hope anybody else who held the same impression I did understands their mistake.  Especially those who may have views that may not benefit your career or that of your&nbsp;friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9624</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.alfranken.com/pages/health_care/

http://www.jackforsenate.org/health-care.htm

http://www.ciresiforsenate.com/issues/healthcare

How&#039;s that, some specific positions on issues.  Maybe we should be talking about these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.alfranken.com/pages/health_care/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alfranken.com/pages/health_care/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jackforsenate.org/health-care.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jackforsenate.org/health-care.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ciresiforsenate.com/issues/healthcare" rel="nofollow">http://www.ciresiforsenate.com/issues/healthcare</a></p>
<p>How&#8217;s that, some specific positions on issues.  Maybe we should be talking about&nbsp;these.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulsing</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9614</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulsing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to hell, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to hell,&nbsp;John.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9616</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least you admit, Sean, that Wellstones funeral WAS a political event</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least you admit, Sean, that Wellstones funeral WAS a political&nbsp;event</p>
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		<title>By: I Don&#8217;t Hate America! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Welcome new readers!</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9611</link>
		<dc:creator>I Don&#8217;t Hate America! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Welcome new readers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like to take this time to extend a warm greeting to new visitors from MNPublius (which has noted our &#8220;respect&#8221; for Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer), Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer&#8217;s own campaign (which noted that &#8220;the bloggers are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] like to take this time to extend a warm greeting to new visitors from MNPublius (which has noted our &#8220;respect&#8221; for Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer), Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer&#8217;s own campaign (which noted that &#8220;the bloggers are&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9619</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan--

Fair point.  I know that Pallmeyer is probably looking for a lot of organizing support out of Peace in the Precincts and they are focused largely in the 4th and the 5th.  I think he&#039;ll also pick up some support out of the 8th but thats about it.

(and as a 5th district DFL executive committee member, it&#039;s probably part of the reason why I&#039;ve been courted harder than you have.)

And, I think that what you bring up is part of the reason why you can&#039;t expect Pallmeyer&#039;s campaign to win the endorsement or an election.  There are just too many of those timid defensive and hyperpatriotic people in the state who Pallmeyer&#039;s message doesn&#039;t resonate with.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;</p>
<p>Fair point.  I know that Pallmeyer is probably looking for a lot of organizing support out of Peace in the Precincts and they are focused largely in the 4th and the 5th.  I think he&#8217;ll also pick up some support out of the 8th but thats about&nbsp;it.</p>
<p>(and as a 5th district DFL executive committee member, it&#8217;s probably part of the reason why I&#8217;ve been courted harder than you&nbsp;have.)</p>
<p>And, I think that what you bring up is part of the reason why you can&#8217;t expect Pallmeyer&#8217;s campaign to win the endorsement or an election.  There are just too many of those timid defensive and hyperpatriotic people in the state who Pallmeyer&#8217;s message doesn&#8217;t resonate&nbsp;with.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9618</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Kerosene Hat, one of our members is working for Al Franken in IT (but I&#039;m sure you knew that, you were just trying to hide it under that snazzy veneer of being a smartass).

But, in response to asking about our connections to the different candidates, its an straw man and a waste of our time.  If I had to tell you every acquaintance and friend that was working for a DFL campaign in Minnesota I&#039;d have a hard time writing anything else.

You repeatedly hint (this isn&#039;t the first time) that we&#039;re biased because JD works for the Franken camp.  Shit, we may be.  And, lets be honest here, it&#039;s not like anyone doesn&#039;t know.  But I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;ve told every other campaign that&#039;s asked, I&#039;ll happily post anything thats positive for a Democrat in the state.

But in the future you can either accuse us of being biased or continue with the passive aggressive approach you&#039;ve taken so far.

And finally it&#039;s not my responsibility to &quot;provide an evenhanded look at the candidates positions and let people decide for themselves.&quot;  If you think it is, then maybe you&#039;re looking at the wrong blog.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Kerosene Hat, one of our members is working for Al Franken in IT (but I&#8217;m sure you knew that, you were just trying to hide it under that snazzy veneer of being a&nbsp;smartass).</p>
<p>But, in response to asking about our connections to the different candidates, its an straw man and a waste of our time.  If I had to tell you every acquaintance and friend that was working for a DFL campaign in Minnesota I&#8217;d have a hard time writing anything&nbsp;else.</p>
<p>You repeatedly hint (this isn&#8217;t the first time) that we&#8217;re biased because JD works for the Franken camp.  Shit, we may be.  And, lets be honest here, it&#8217;s not like anyone doesn&#8217;t know.  But I&#8217;ll tell you what I&#8217;ve told every other campaign that&#8217;s asked, I&#8217;ll happily post anything thats positive for a Democrat in the&nbsp;state.</p>
<p>But in the future you can either accuse us of being biased or continue with the passive aggressive approach you&#8217;ve taken so&nbsp;far.</p>
<p>And finally it&#8217;s not my responsibility to &#8220;provide an evenhanded look at the candidates positions and let people decide for themselves.&#8221;  If you think it is, then maybe you&#8217;re looking at the wrong&nbsp;blog.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2007/11/jnp-gets-what-he-deserves/#comment-9617</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.p.s.  Sorry for asking about issues.  I know Franken people tend to hate that.  They would rather it be about money, personality, and making people that don&#039;t pay attention feel good about themselves.  Kinda like Bush supporters in that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.p.s.  Sorry for asking about issues.  I know Franken people tend to hate that.  They would rather it be about money, personality, and making people that don&#8217;t pay attention feel good about themselves.  Kinda like Bush supporters in that&nbsp;way.</p>
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