We have a new DFL senator! THE SOS IS REPORTING KEVIN DAHLE WINS!
Zack Adds: A stunning upset. The DFL now has a veto proof majority in the State Senate (but not in the House). Congratulations to Senator Dahle and the Senate DFL Caucus.
On an unrelated Iowa note, WHAT NOW BIG KAHUNA?
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HELL YES!!!!!
I just heard Dahle is celebrating at the bar in Northfield and thanks all of his volunteers from the depths of his heart, a veto-proof majority sounds greta for the 2007 session hehe, so long pawlenty
Well I looked at the results with 87% of precincts reporting - and Cox was ahead by almost 300 votes. The high voting precincts must have went for Dahle, big time.
No, Northfield went for Dahle big time
Nice note Zack against Big Ka(whatever) hehe
Holy Smokes !!! a 13 point margin of victory in a Republican district! I look forward to the Repugnican spin on this one. Way to go Senator Dahle.
This and Obamas strong victory, and the Republicans committing Huckacide really made my day.
WOW! Students in Northfield and Iowa stood up today and did a big SCREW YOU to Tpaw and Republicans everywhere.
Look at those Northfield numbers. Shocking. Simply shocking. And 220,00 Democrat caucus attendees in Iowa? WOW!!!!!
Great, we got a two-thirds majority. Will anything actually change? Keep in mind: 2008 is an election year.
woo-hoo!
but i have a very tough decision to make now…one more summit or go to bed…
Holy Hell, I was at the bar celebrating tonight - what a rush! WAY TO GO, NORTHFIELD, FOR PULLING IT OFF! WAY TO GO, LE SUEUR COUNTY, FOR VOTING DEMOCRATIC FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DECADES!
I can’t but help the lack of post by our friend Big Ka(Whatever), where are you bud??
“WOW! Students in Northfield and Iowa stood up today and did a big SCREW YOU to Tpaw and Republicans everywhere.”
No, they stood up and did a big screw you to this Cox guy. Don’t read too much into it.
All politics is local.
Wow, I actually get noted on this one.
I feel so special.
My answer to what now… It does not change a thing. I did not say Hillary would win in Iowa, I said she will be your candidate and I will be proven right on that. I do not doubt that many of you would not want her for your candidate, but you will be asked to shut up and vote for her none the less. If a democRat were to win, I would rather Obama win over Hillary, but that is just not going to happen. Edwards is just too far left and does not excite enough people. He was rejected before and will be again. If he plays nice though he could possibly get the vice spot with Hillary. Though I think she will go for Clark on that one.
So sorry gang, it still will be Hillary, but thanks for playing. :)
To say Edwards doesn’t excite enough people is an understatement. He scares most people who are trying to work hard and do well.
Edwards is anti-wealth creation. If you are a successful business that provides jobs, be careful. You are in his crosshairs. Because you must just be the bad guy.
However, to Edwards, it is perfectly fine for trial lawyers to get a multi-million dollar piece of the pie over and over and over, and frivolous lawsuits are a good thing.
The bottom line with Edwards: It is not OK to make a high income if you actually produce a good or service, but it is perfectly fine to make millions if you get it via a lawsuit or lawyers fees.
Obviously, the reason there was such a huge, overwhelming DummocRatic turnout in Iowa was because of their hared of Hillary Clinton.
It was a great win for the Republican Party. Edwards and Barack Hussein were only benefitting from our Party’s successful derailment of the Clinton campaign. :razz:
Did I just read that Big Kahuna would be OK with an Obama Presidency? I must still be drunk from last night.
DJZ, I am merely saying I would take him over Hillary.
It’s ok, I still believe liberalism is not based in any kind of reality.
Dan I get a kick out of him claiming the rich are greedy.
He seems to exclude himself from any of it when clearly he has made his millions working the system. It would be fun to pick on Edwards, but he is just so unelectable, why bother.
The Obama thing is fun, but in the end he will be railroaded right out of the way for Hillary.
The fun part about this thread is how much fun it will be to poke back at Sean when Hillary is the official candidate. :)
I don’t see how Hillary is going to do it. Independents vote for Obama 3-to-1. Hillary’s gonna have a hell of a time beating that.
I will go on record as saying out loud, a Hillary nomination would be fine with me. She’s head and shoulders above the nearest GOP (Gross Old Pervert) candidate. I will also go on record as saying I was disappointed in Edwards showing. Obama’s win has a number of good signs attached to it. The turnout and the age of the turnout is very encouraging. His speech accepting victory was nothing short of brilliant. No other candidate comes close to his oratorical skills. The content of the speech was as well encouraging. McCain’s showing was lackluster as was all the republicans. Romeny’s speech was buffoonish and Huckabee just seemed to meander from one milquetoast point to another. If McCain gets ahead in the race for the nomination, it will be interesting to see which republican starts up with the whisper campaign. Because of McCain’s Viet Nam experiance, I don’t really think he’s balanced enough to lead and apparently, John McCain has fathered a child of color outside the holy bounds of heterosexual marriage.
Richard, it is good you like Hillary as that is who you will be told to vote for.
However Richard I get concerned my friend that perhaps you are not taking your meds as prescribed. It seems to me you have this huge hatred for all things Republican.
I am courious how you think that Hillary is head and shoulders above anyone? She is probably the worst canidate your side could put up. Please give me a list of her great accomplishments that you feel makes her head and shoulders above anyone. My guess is once again you will have little choice but to change the subject or try to divert attention because you often drop your posts with no reasoning as to why you hold the views you do. Just saying Hillary is better does not make it so, please help enlighten us all with your infinate wisdom Richard.
You are a good mind numb democRat robot aren’t you? get yer brown shirts cleaned up for the Hillary goosestep. ;)
At least I can read between the lines and can tell you would prefer somone else but are willing to hold your nose and vote for her anyhow.
Obama will be in the third year of his presidency before Kahuna concedes that Hillary won’t be the Democratic nominee.
So BK, what do you do when your preferred candidate for office doesn’t get nominated or make it through a primary? Do you just not vote?
Dan, I will eat my humble pie like man if I am proven wrong, but alas, that is not likely to happen.
I do wonder how well some of you will take it when I am proven right. Because yes, I will gloat. 
Sean, to be honest I am not sure. So far that has not happened. I have been happy with who the GOP put forth thus far in my time voting. This year however could be one that it happens. I am not done yet deciding who I would want. My views are probably more in line with Thompson? I like Rudy and believe he could possibly do a good job. Not so sure about Huckabee yet and know I do not like Romney.
Should be fun to see who is right.
Wish we did not have to wait so long to find out. Oh wait, that is right, Hillary already bought and paid for this election so get used to the idea of voting Hillary! :)
I have been happy with who the GOP put forth thus far in my time voting.
Just like an obedient little fascist.
BK, I wouldn’t worry about Romney; if McCain wins in NH, Mitt’s finished. But of course that won’t really settle the GOP field. I’m stocking up on popcorn; it’s going to be a long, interesting trip for the GOP.
As for Obama, last night’s results were the absolute best he could’ve hoped for. Second place gets Edwards nowhere. He’s never been a factor anywhere but Iowa. I’m personally guessing he’ll toss his support behind Obama after coming in a distant third in NH. That might be balanced by Richardson throwing his anemic support behind Clinton, but I doubt it. Hillary’s still the frontrunner, don’t get me wrong, but the potential for Obama to overtake her is there. I’m curious to see new SC polls now that Obama is a decidedly credible candidate…
“THE SOS IS REPORTING KEVIN DAHLE WINS!”
So did Ritchie actually climb out from underneath his desk, or did the report come by way of smoke signal?
Brodkorb had to tell him and help him get it up on the site. Ritchie is a total asshat!
Richard, I sense some anger in your posts.
Funny thing is I explained where I am at and stated I was happy with who the GOP chose over the last few years, all you can come back with is what a good little obedient Fascist? No wonder why I make you look like a total idiot all the time. How about you get a clue and actually post something of value. Typical little socialist who can only name call as his defense. my guess is about the time you start to get pubic hair you should be ready to post something of value. ;)
Oh, I’m sorry, I meant to ask if Ritchie come out from under Brian Melendez’s desk.
I agree 100% Big Kahuna,
Because we hate Hillary Clinton so much, the Dumbocrats will be forced to vote for her. Our smear campaigns are ready to go, the websites are already built and well funded, and since you moonbats are do freaking stupid, you will vote for Hillary Clinton anyway!
That’s what I love about idiots, they are idionts and act like idiots! :razz:
Typical funny you should mention idiots. ;)
I agree 100% with Big Kahuna,
Idiot dummocrats are not only funny, they help me feel better about myself, in the face of all criticism. :razz:
I agree 100% with TFRWG…he definately needs an ego boost. :-o
but are willing to hold your nose and vote for her anyhow. You are a good mind numb democRat robot aren’t you? get yer brown shirts cleaned up for the Hillary goosestep.
I have been happy with who the GOP put forth thus far in my time voting.
My voting history
‘76 — Eugene MacCarthy
‘80 — John Anderson
‘84 — Mondale
‘88 — Dukakis
‘92 and ‘96 — Clinton
Mondale vs Reagan really no choice there. Reagan was embroiled in Iran/Contra and waging an illegal war in Central America.
Dukakis vs Bush the elder, again, no real choice. Bush’s economics were simply warmed over supply side and we see how that worked out.
Clinton vs Bush and the Democratic party finally puts forth a candidate that could fight the fascists and win.
Clinton vs Dole, no sense changing horses in the middle of the most extraordinary economic expansion in the nations history.
And most recently, in the Democratic primaries of ‘99, I was very interested in Bradley and almost as interested in McCain. If the contest had been between Gore and McCain, I would’ve had to make a very considered choice. Bradley McCain, I would’ve gone for Bradley but the criminal Bush got the nomination and my respect for McCain is all but gone. How he could stand to be in the same room as Bush, I’ll never understand.
So there it is, I’ve voted in every election since my 18th birthday and worked for a number of differant candidates. Not always the candidates I end up voting for. I take this right very seriously. That’s why if I get called names and have my patriotism questioned, I get a little testy. Also, I just don’t like fascists.
Correction Richard. You don’t like the Republican flavor of authoritarian, the Democratic flavor is just fine.
That’s really not correct KH. I vote for the candidate that most closely reflects my beliefs and hopes for the future. I would love to vote for a republican but as Ron Paul has labeled it there is a soft fascism at work here and it is most solidly rooted in the republican party. By the way, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich were on Bill Moyers Journal last night, if you can catch rebroadcast or you tube or whatever, I recommend it highly. A principaled Republican and a principaled Democrat, talking, at some length, about the issues. Prior to the criminal Reagan, I viewed both parties equally. After the most corrupt administration in this nations history got done with it, I no longer recognized the Republican party and still don’t. HR676 should be enough to convince you there are some ethics left in politics and it’s not all about the big money.
Thanks for the tip Richard I will check out the program.
My issue, and why Democrats are no better than Republicans for me, is simply this. The power we entrust to a central government the more likely we are to succumb to authoritarian powers. Neither Democrats or Republicans are truly nefarious as a whole or want to destroy the country. They both simply believe they know best and need to have to do what it takes to gain the power to enforce their views. They both use fear to promote the idea that their form of protection is needed, Republicans use social change and terrorism as the bogey man while Democrats use corporations and the wealthy. Of course in the end the solutions are all the same. They all ask for more power to regulate speech, property, movement and trade so they can fix our ills. The fact that the fixes all happen to benefit a narrow group of their supporters at the cost of their opponents is no surprise. All while blaming their failures on other people while never taking any themselves.
There is nothing magical about democracy. It was used in our governmental system as a method of checking the inevitable increase in government control that often happens, not as a social or economic management tool. The simple fact that a majority of people want a particular program, like single payer, does not give them the right to force other people to support it. That is a perfect example of an authoritarian majority and all social welfare programs use it as their philosophical base.
I feel that government health care is every bit as authoritarian as wire tapping. We are always told it is for our own good and the cost in dollar and liberty are worth it. As long as we put the “right people” in charge.
Thanks again for the program tip and I apologize that my last post was a bit glib.