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	<title>Comments on: Doug Grow: Kelliher the Big Winner</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only there were some source of information about a candidates positions on a variety of issues.  You know, a single place, a site if you will, where people could access what a person plans to do.  Gosh, wouldn't that be just grand to have something like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only there were some source of information about a candidates positions on a variety of issues.  You know, a single place, a site if you will, where people could access what a person plans to do.  Gosh, wouldn&#8217;t that be just grand to have something like&nbsp;that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy satire as much as the next person, but I don’t rely on it to advance political thought.  Satire to me is entertainment, sometimes with an edge.  I like entertainment.  I bet that I’ve been rolling on the floor laughing at some SNL skits that came from Franken’s brain.  He is a good entertainer.

The question is where does satire belong in the world of advancing political thought?  It has a place, but it doesn’t offer solutions.  For someone to be offering ideas and rationale for a certain viewpoint only to have someone else come in and take an unproductive satirical view of the issue doesn’t get us any further.  It happens on these boards, and it has happened with Franken.

The easy part is pointing out what is wrong with your adversaries’ viewpoints.  The hard part is offering up a better alternative of your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy satire as much as the next person, but I don’t rely on it to advance political thought.  Satire to me is entertainment, sometimes with an edge.  I like entertainment.  I bet that I’ve been rolling on the floor laughing at some SNL skits that came from Franken’s brain.  He is a good entertainer.</p>
<p>The question is where does satire belong in the world of advancing political thought?  It has a place, but it doesn’t offer solutions.  For someone to be offering ideas and rationale for a certain viewpoint only to have someone else come in and take an unproductive satirical view of the issue doesn’t get us any further.  It happens on these boards, and it has happened with Franken.</p>
<p>The easy part is pointing out what is wrong with your adversaries’ viewpoints.  The hard part is offering up a better alternative of your&nbsp;own.</p>
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		<title>By: Virtually Speakinig</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtually Speakinig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who can wait for 2010?  Why don't we just vote for Anderson Kelliher as a write-in candidate for President?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who can wait for 2010?  Why don&#8217;t we just vote for Anderson Kelliher as a write-in candidate for&nbsp;President?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satire allows people to look at our countries problems, sure through laughter but that laughter will end and eventually one will go, wow that had some deeper meaning.  Well, if they are intelligent enough to appreciate the deeper meaning of it instead of just the usually politically correct and offensive humor that is associated with it.

I saw Ave Q, a musical and there is a song called, Everyone is a Little Bit Racist.  It completely mocked our culture and was a huge satire of our opinions towards race and it is incredibly offensive but towards the end, the lyrics go, if we all could just admit, that we are racist a little bit, and everyone stop being so pc, maybe we could live in harmony.  Sometimes the message isnt as blatant as that but usually, within satire, if you dont just take it a face value you can gain some insight.  Unfortunately, Republicans appear unable to do that with Franken because they'd rather just see dick jokes instead of thought and intelligence.  (Although, we shouldnt say all of Franken's stuff is that way)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satire allows people to look at our countries problems, sure through laughter but that laughter will end and eventually one will go, wow that had some deeper meaning.  Well, if they are intelligent enough to appreciate the deeper meaning of it instead of just the usually politically correct and offensive humor that is associated with it.</p>
<p>I saw Ave Q, a musical and there is a song called, Everyone is a Little Bit Racist.  It completely mocked our culture and was a huge satire of our opinions towards race and it is incredibly offensive but towards the end, the lyrics go, if we all could just admit, that we are racist a little bit, and everyone stop being so pc, maybe we could live in harmony.  Sometimes the message isnt as blatant as that but usually, within satire, if you dont just take it a face value you can gain some insight.  Unfortunately, Republicans appear unable to do that with Franken because they&#8217;d rather just see dick jokes instead of thought and intelligence.  (Although, we shouldnt say all of Franken&#8217;s stuff is that&nbsp;way)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually satire reveals truths in a poignant and fearless manner.  As one of the last 27%er's, I can understand why you're a bit irritated with TFRWG.  It's tough to have one's whole philosophical underpinnings held up and shown how ridiculous they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually satire reveals truths in a poignant and fearless manner.  As one of the last 27%er&#8217;s, I can understand why you&#8217;re a bit irritated with TFRWG.  It&#8217;s tough to have one&#8217;s whole philosophical underpinnings held up and shown how ridiculous they&nbsp;are.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satire -- the kind that shouldn't be taken seriously because it only mocks instead of offering actual solutions.  You know, the kind Al Franken built his livelihood doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satire&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;the kind that shouldn&#8217;t be taken seriously because it only mocks instead of offering actual solutions.  You know, the kind Al Franken built his livelihood&nbsp;doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satire Andrew, satire.  You see it's funny because 27% of the adult population actually believes the GOP is the party of shared success and honest government.  It would be funnier if it wasn't so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satire Andrew, satire.  You see it&#8217;s funny because 27% of the adult population actually believes the GOP is the party of shared success and honest government.  It would be funnier if it wasn&#8217;t so&nbsp;sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is sarcasm right TFRWG?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is sarcasm right&nbsp;TFRWG?</p>
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		<title>By: Typical Frightened Right Wing Guy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Typical Frightened Right Wing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swiftee,I agree 100%,

These moonbats that we take down are such idiots, they would consider running Brian Herron, whom everyone knows is guilty of taking bribes. These dummocrats WOULD pick someone JUST LIKE THEM.

It's a good thing the Republican party has not only shown the American people what honest government looks like, they've shown America what it is like to share success amongst it's people. America's success and prosperity has been permanently branded with the Republican seal.

Who would be stupid enough to vote against that?

Great Job, Swiftee!!

Keep taking down moonbats so very very well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swiftee,I agree 100%,</p>
<p>These moonbats that we take down are such idiots, they would consider running Brian Herron, whom everyone knows is guilty of taking bribes. These dummocrats WOULD pick someone JUST LIKE THEM.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing the Republican party has not only shown the American people what honest government looks like, they&#8217;ve shown America what it is like to share success amongst it&#8217;s people. America&#8217;s success and prosperity has been permanently branded with the Republican seal.</p>
<p>Who would be stupid enough to vote against that?</p>
<p>Great Job, Swiftee!!</p>
<p>Keep taking down moonbats so very very&nbsp;well!</p>
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		<title>By: Swiftee</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Swiftee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The most meaningful question will be–which young, charismatic Minnesotan will get the national push in 2012?"

I'm guessing the Democrat party is going to have to dig pretty deep into the barrel to outdo Al Franken.

Maybe Brian Herron will be available by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The most meaningful question will be–which young, charismatic Minnesotan will get the national push in 2012?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing the Democrat party is going to have to dig pretty deep into the barrel to outdo Al Franken.</p>
<p>Maybe Brian Herron will be available by&nbsp;then.</p>
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		<title>By: the seal</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>the seal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelliher managed to make Pawlenty look like a statesman by sessions end, rather than a political hack that is his comfort zone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelliher managed to make Pawlenty look like a statesman by sessions end, rather than a political hack that is his comfort&nbsp;zone</p>
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		<title>By: Southern Minny Moderate</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Southern Minny Moderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coleman will beat Franken in a year when Republicans lose everywhere, and at every level.  This will elevate Norm in much the same way Pawlenty was elevated by beating a different weak Democrat in a year when Democrats were winning everything.

Pawlenty will not be McCain's Veep candidate (McCain will lose, regardless), and will not run for re-election--he will maintain his


The most meaningful question will be--which young, charismatic Minnesotan will get the national push in 2012?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coleman will beat Franken in a year when Republicans lose everywhere, and at every level.  This will elevate Norm in much the same way Pawlenty was elevated by beating a different weak Democrat in a year when Democrats were winning everything.</p>
<p>Pawlenty will not be McCain&#8217;s Veep candidate (McCain will lose, regardless), and will not run for re-election&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;he will maintain his</p>
<p>The most meaningful question will be&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;which young, charismatic Minnesotan will get the national push in&nbsp;2012?</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just saying Kelliher has a better chance of winning then Franken.  I don't think anyone disagrees with that statement.  If they do, I'd like to hear their justification.

Kelliher is a better candidate then Franken.  Fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just saying Kelliher has a better chance of winning then Franken.  I don&#8217;t think anyone disagrees with that statement.  If they do, I&#8217;d like to hear their justification.</p>
<p>Kelliher is a better candidate then Franken.&nbsp;Fact.</p>
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		<title>By: A Nony Moose</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/05/doug-grow-kelliher-the-big-winner/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>A Nony Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Coleman has zero chance of winning in Nov."

Don't know why that would be the case - they are even today.  Bush will be less of an issue because he isn't running.  Add to that the fact that Franken has plenty of negatives (and the potential for creating more) and it's shaping up to be a very close race either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Coleman has zero chance of winning in Nov.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know why that would be the case - they are even today.  Bush will be less of an issue because he isn&#8217;t running.  Add to that the fact that Franken has plenty of negatives (and the potential for creating more) and it&#8217;s shaping up to be a very close race either&nbsp;way.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better start addressing your rock as Senator Rock because Coleman has zero chance of winning in Nov.  Get used to hearing Coleman/Bush or Bush/Coleman a lot.  Bush's third term is going to be the big theme this year and Coleman will be tied very firmly to Bush's coattails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better start addressing your rock as Senator Rock because Coleman has zero chance of winning in Nov.  Get used to hearing Coleman/Bush or Bush/Coleman a lot.  Bush&#8217;s third term is going to be the big theme this year and Coleman will be tied very firmly to Bush&#8217;s&nbsp;coattails.</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. She was the big winner.  My guess is if she ran against Coleman for the senate, she'd be much more likely to win then Franken.

But then again, the rock in my back yard has a better chance of winning then Franken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. She was the big winner.  My guess is if she ran against Coleman for the senate, she&#8217;d be much more likely to win then Franken.</p>
<p>But then again, the rock in my back yard has a better chance of winning then&nbsp;Franken.</p>
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