Despite Month of Bad News, Franken Barely Behind!

Rasmussen just put out their latest on the Senate race in Minnesota, and the results will be shocking to some:

Coleman - 48%
Franken - 45%

This is essentially unchanged from their last poll, which had Coleman ahead 47%-45%.

Just goes to show how badly Minnesota voters want change!

Rasmussen also became the first polling outfit (at least that I am aware of) to include Jesse Ventura in a trial:

Coleman - 39%
Franken - 32%
Ventura - 24%

Rasmussen concludes that Ventura’s enterance into the race would hurt Franken.  I think what this data shows is that a Ventura candidacy would turn the race into a three way free for all where anyone could win.  I wish, however, they had also tested Dean Barkley.  I think a Barkley candidacy is much more likely than a Ventura candidacy.

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40 Responses to “Despite Month of Bad News, Franken Barely Behind!”


  1. 1 1 MO

    “Just goes to show how badly Minnesota voters want change!”

    No, it just goes to show you that Democrats will vote for anyone with a “D” behind them, closing their eyes, covering their ears, and singing LALALALALA loudly as they go to the polls.

  2. 2 2 lojasmo

    I can’t believe the folks here who don’t understand that an incumbent under 50% is in DEEP trouble.

    Obama’s going to have long coat tails in Minnesota.

  3. 3 3 swiftee

    Didn’t Angry Al just get the Democrat endorsement? Guess the big liberal whoop-la didn’t create any ripples.

    Now that the summer campaign season is here the candidates are obliged to meet the public at large, not just huddle with their ilk at fundraisers as Al has been doing.

    Given the fact that Al has the manners of a New York cab driver and the cluelessness of a Hollywood actor, we can count on a meltdown any time now. Al’s kodak moment will most likely come after some farmer from Zumbrota fails to allow Angry Al to duck the embaressing questions his career as an asshat demands be answered.

    I’m betting that Norm sails back into Washington with a comfortable 20% margin.

  4. 4 4 amuseinc

    Swiftee you mean New York Norm can fake being a Minnesotan better than a Minnesota raised Al Franken? You actually think a Thief River Falls farmer is going to be taken in by Norm’s braying accent? Sheesh you are dumber than your name implies.

    Keep up with the Angry Al BS… because right now a lot of Minnesotans are as angry or more at Republicans… even fake Republicans like Norm “Vision” Coleman. Everytime a Minnesotan fills up their gas tank they think of those two Republican oil-men in the Whitehouse and Norm “Lapdog” Coleman.

    Old 95% Norm has recently changed his voting pattern… no longer supporting Bush policy. So no matter who wins the election we liberals win. Did you like that Norm now votes Democratic more than Republican… that is this year. Next year if he’s there with Obama in the Whitehouse, don’t be surprised if Norm becomes a Democrat again. You can’t win for locing with Norm the Snake Coleman.

  5. 5 5 attilla

    Swiftee,

    I’ll take that bet! Any amount you like, preferably above $1000. 20 point spread, money to be deposited with Sean or Zack by both parties right now. Hey to be fair, I’ll give you a 15 point spread.

    Put your money where your mouth is Swiftee!

  6. 6 6 amuseinc

    You can’t win for losing with Norm the Snake Coleman.

  7. 7 7 lojasmo

    @ swiftee:

    “angry Al”

    You have obviously never met Al

    Your repeated screed is nothing but a meme. Your ignorance is astounding.

    I can’t wait to hear you talking shit about 2012 in November.

  8. 8 8 Dyna Sluyter

    Clearly Minnesotans have seen through the Repug’s shrill shouting about every occasional weird word Al may have said for the last few decades. The voters have looked at Al and Franni, happily married for over three decades, and figured out that Al is just a regular guy, a family man whose job for years was to turn out sometimes racy humor that would keep our precious eyeballs glued to SNL and the advertisers happy.

    So after Michael and company over at MDE et al have been throwing kitchen sinks, laundry sinks, and even their hog troughs at Al for months, the voters have seen clear through the republicans barrage of bile and see Al Franken for what he is- the bast qualified candidate to represent Minnesota in the U.S. Senate!

  9. 9 9 swiftee

    “Swiftee you mean New York Norm can fake being a Minnesotan better than a Minnesota raised Al Franken?”

    Yeah, I guess that after having lived here for 30 years Norm has that “fakin’ it” thing down pretty good…but to be fair, I’m sure that very few New York cab drivers could catch any hint of Minnesotan twang in Angry Al’s spew either.

    “You have obviously never met Al”

    Oh, yes I have, Jismo. I plan to meet him quite a bit more this summer, too.

  10. 10 10 Typical Frightened Right Wing Guy

    Swiftee, I agree 100%,

    That story on your blog RULES! Certainly, you have done a great job taking down communist scum, sock puppets, and moonbats.

    As you like to say, you are doing a great job spreading discontent on the internet and sending “leftists” to the third ring of hell, and everyone knows that’s where every leftist deserves to go.

    These moonbats who hate America and want to surrender to terrorists need to be taken down. Thank god you exist, Swiftee. It’s too bad that people who disagree with us exist though.

    Keep on hoping every leftist fascist socioalist communist scumbag disappears from the face of the earth, except for a few that we keep in zoos so we can show our children what a moonbat is.

    Great Job!

  11. 11 11 amuseinc

    Swiftee you do realize that Norm Coleman never set foot in Minnesota until he was paid to do so. Had Alabama paid their government lawyers more, Norm would be faking a Southern drawl. You do realize that Norm Coleman has been on the government dole ever since he got out of college… never held a job in the private sector.

    I mean this guy you are supporting with his 30 years in Minnesota… which since he came here after his 28th birthday just says he’s working towards John McCain years isn’t even a real Republican. You sure are hard up if Mr. Loyalty is your candidate. How come Norm and his wife don’t live together? You would think that supporting Republican Family values would mean that his wife didn’t live in Hollywood and support Hollywood values.

    Ever check out Norm’s communist ties. He was the leader of a group when he was expelled from Hofstra for a violent demonstration… that was completely controlled by the Socialist Workers Party, at the time Marxist bordering on Maoist communists. Norm the Republican thusly had meetings with communists… he may have not been one but he certainly got in bed with them.Has there ever been another US Senator with that close of ties to communists? I don’t think so… say, what does RINO mean anyway? You think we have a clinker candidate, get a load of Norm Coleman!

  12. 12 12 swiftee

    You’ve brought up Norm’s supposed Communist ties before, I’m still waiting for some proof.

    Say, TFRWG? When we get all of the Moonbats rounded up into zoos, you get to feed them…just don’t pet them too hard.

  13. 13 13 Dyna Sluyter

    You know, Norm probably has enough years in PERA from his years at the AG’s office and as a St.Paul city employee to pull down a pretty decent pension check. As soon as he completes his first term he’ll be vested in FERS and they’ll be happy to provide him and his family health insurance for the rest of their lives. So why doesn’t that paragon of family values, Norm Coleman, take early retirement and move to California to be with his family?

  14. 14 14 AK

    This poll is hardly good news. Is there any doubt that Ciresi or another credible democrat would have a 10-15 point lead right now? This race should have a huge bulls eye on it.

  15. 15 15 Dan

    Franken does not want to get into a pissing match with Coleman about who is a real Minnesotan.

    Franken, who was born in New York, lived here as a child. He moved away when he was 18, and spent his entire adult life living elsewhere until he moved here to run for senate.

    Coleman was born and raised in New York, and moved here 30 years ago. He has spent his entire adult life doing public service work in Minnesota.

    Do you really think people are so shallow (even Thief River Falls farmers) that Coleman’s accent makes a difference? It hasn’t so far in the other elections he has won (or at least beaten the DFL candidate).

  16. 16 16 amuseinc

    Norm Coleman should wear a coonskin cap he’s such a Minnesotan. Or perhaps regal us with stories about his successful snipe hunts when the jackalopes were howling and the loons were biting.

    Dan, the point is pretty simple. Norm “Lapdog” Coleman never was nor is he now a real Minnesotan. Take it from someone with roots here since before the coming of the voyageurs and other ancestors being those same drunken Frenchmen, he just is not it. He could pretend to be a Finn from up north but then he would have to have actually worked for a living. And then someone would ask about the Black Cat Society and his cover would be blown. Amy Klobuchar, now there’s a real Minnesota Senator.

    For the GOP to foist that opportunist as a Son of the North Star State is just a poor joke. Yeah, I know its’ the 21st Century and all that but I would prefer my next Minnesota Senator to have graduated from High School in St. Louis Park instead of James Madison High School in Brooklyn, New York. It has to do with those formative years… and Coleman spent them drugged up on Long Island, New York.

    Dan I also have to laugh at that public service in Minnesota line… has the man ever not gotten a government check? You know actually worked in the private sector. And his junior high paper route back in New York doesn’t count. Another Republican sucking on the public teat while pretending to be self-made. Norm Coleman is the worst kind of sleazy carpetbagger. He’s just fed off Minnesota taxpayers his whole life, well since he was 28. I hope he studies his Minnesota history and geography because he’s going to get asked some questions to prove himself, you betcha.

  17. 17 17 Dan

    Amuseinc, what a disgusting comment. Someone who is employed by the government - as a prosecutor, no less - is “sucking on the public teat?” I don’t like Norm Coleman either, but not to the extent that I would denigrate public employees because Coleman has been publicly employeed his whole career. Are public school teachers just “sucking on the public teat?” Are cops and firefighters “sucking on the public teat?” Was Amy Klobuchar “sucking on the public teat” when she was the Hennepin County district attorney? Are you even a Democrat? I’m not even sure Swiftee would sink that low.

    By the way, Franken didn’t graduate from high school in St. Louis Park. He went to Blake.

  18. 18 18 swiftee

    “Norm probably has enough years in PERA from his years at the AG’s office and as a St.Paul city employee to pull down a pretty decent pension check.”

    Sniff..sniff…Do I smell a public employee union mentality?
    ==========================

    “I would prefer my next Minnesota Senator to have graduated from High School in St. Louis Park.”

    Well you had better get cutting if you’re going to find one before the election, sport. Franken graduated from the Blake school (y’know..where all the regular folks send their kids).

    Do you actually know anything about Franken other than he’s a Degenerate, er, I mean Democrat?

    “Coleman spent them drugged up on Long Island, New York.”

    Yeah, and as we all know the really good Democrat candidates did their drugging in Manhatten…like Franken.

  19. 19 19 amuseinc

    Sorry to ruffle your feathers there Dan, but when you point to a hockey rink as your biggest achievement in public service, I have trouble putting you up their with cops and firemen. And if you examine Lapdogs career you are not going to see a lot of selfless public service… even as a government lawyer.

    Personally I think after what the Republicans have pulled in just the primary against Al Franken, all is fair with Norm the Weasel. The fact is that calling a family man a “pornographer” for writing for Playboy pissed me off. This especially true considering the skirt-chasing rumors about Coleman and the sad story of his father’s interest in ladies of the evening.

    And by the way, other than a donation I am in no way associated with or in communication with the Franken campaign.

    I’m a Democrat that is tired of seeing mud coming from “holier than thou” Republicans without some return. Somebody shoves me, they get shoved back. See I too share a vision with Norm Coleman.

  20. 20 20 amuseinc

    Gee sorry, Franken while living in St. Louis Park attended Blake School in Wayzata or Hopkins… Franken still wasn’t celebrating his 20th birthday at Woodstock, New York and being quoted in his university newspaper bragging about sexual encounters and taking drugs.Franken also was 6 when he first set foot in Minnesota and actually came home and visited his parents for the years after 18. Unlike Norm the Opportunist who never set foot in the state until he was 28.

    So Swiftee, is drug taking a deal-breaker for becoming a U.S. Senator or not? How can you say anything nasty about Franken’s drug taking without at least admitting that Norm was stupid enough to even have pictures taken of himself stoned to the gills?

  21. 21 21 Dan

    I am not talking about comparing Coleman to cops and firemen. I am calling you out for slandering cops and firemen and all public employees. If the best you can do to “shove back” is to ridicule public employees, I can guarantee that Al Franken doesn’t want or need your help. You aren’t a Democrat - no real Democrat would ever make such a disgraceful comment.

  22. 22 22 Dan

    Coleman has lived in Minnesota for 30 years (albeit sucking on the teat like all of those freeloading cops and fireman) and Franken visited his parents here. Ok, then.

    Amuseinc, are you writing satire now? Because it would be hard to make arguments that are less helpful to Al Franken’s cause than the ones you are making here.

    By the way, Blake is a private school in Minneapolis where the fancy rich kids go.

  23. 23 23 Dyna Sluyter

    Blake is a high school in Hopkins that had the guts to host a debate on the war in Vietnam in 1967 when my school district avoided the subject.

  24. 24 24 Matt Martin

    I went to Blake. Not sure what else to say, but I just thought I’d interject before this gets out of hand… although maybe me saying that makes it worse. I guess I’ll just say “for full disclosure.”

  25. 25 25 Dan

    Matt, I knew you were a fancy rich kid! :)
    I certainly don’t have a problem with anyone, including Al Franken (or Matt), going to Blake. Ripping someone for going to a fancy school is almost as lame as saying that public employees are “sucking on the teat.” My only point here was to respond to amuseinc’s comparison of Norm Coleman’s fancy New York high school with Al Franken’s “normal” high school experience here.

    Al Franken can win this race if, and only if, he can make this race about the issues. If you start talking about Coleman’s background, or his accent, or his infidelity and crappy marriage, you are playing right into his hands. Coleman would like nothing better than to make this race about that kind of garbage. The way to deal with Franken’s baggage is not to bring up Coleman’s baggage. We need to make it about Coleman’s record.

  26. 26 26 Sean Broom

    It’s alright we already give Matt shit for being a cake-eater.

    And, if I remember correctly Franken went to Blake on a scholarship or through the help of his grandparents, not through the wealth (or in his case, the lack thereof) of his parents. Sean

  27. 27 27 swiftee

    “Franken still wasn’t celebrating his 20th birthday at Woodstock, New York and being quoted in his university newspaper bragging about sexual encounters and taking drugs.”

    Right. Franken waited until he was in his thirties to start using drugs and writing about his sexual fantasies.

    Amuseinc, are you on drugs right now?
    ======================

    I’ve got nothing against elite private schools. In fact, my wife and I sold our Highland Park house and moved to W. St. Paul to be able to afford to get our kids the hell out of the public system.

    With liberal politicians however, it is worth pointing out that while they’re out there claiming to be working for “the little people” they have asutely avoided contact with those wee folks their entire lives.

    It’s blatent BS.

  28. 28 28 Typical Frightened Right Wing Guy

    Swiftee, I agree 100%,

    Everybody knows that those moonbats who have different opinions than we do are on drugs.

    It is just common sense!

    Keep on doing a great job spreading discontent on the internet and sending “leftists” to the third ring of hell. That is what they all deserve.

    Taking moonbats down is a great way of showing them who is right, us, and who is wrong, moonbats.

    These moonbats deserve no respect, and debating them is irrelevant. I think your comments let every moonbat know just that!

    Great Job!

  29. 29 29 amuseinc

    Dan, at the point that Swiftee makes a single argument on the issues I will play that “game” but until that point I’ll play his. You don’t like it, I’m sorry just don’t read my posts.

    Look in defense of Norm the Weasel, we have swiftee trying to rip on Blake school… which if I am not mistaken is admired among Republican families and in fact represents what Republicans see as a major part of the American Dream… Private Education. Republicans will twist and turn in every direction before they get to the issues.

    I think you are overly sensitive to the issue of public versus private employment. I do find it hilarious that the representative of Party of Business Norm Coleman has never held a private sector job but rather has spent his whole life working one government job after another. At the same time the candidate of the “Big Government” Party has made a living in one of the toughest and most private sector businesses in the country, entertainment. If you do not see the irony in that you are missing more than just a funny bone.

  30. 30 30 Dan

    Yes, we all know that Swiftee is a right wing hack. Yet you have managed to exhibit less class than even he does. You don’t need to bash public employees to understand the irony (and boy, what a zinger LOL).

    Do you know why Al Franken got endorsed on the first ballot? Because he finally stopped talking about being a satirist and simply apologized for his past behavior. That was a huge turning point. But what you are doing is exactly what Norm Coleman wants and what got Franken in trouble.

    Al Franken does not want your kind of help.

  31. 31 31 lojasmao

    “Ciresi or another credible contender”

    I don’t think you should be lumping Ciresi in with ‘credible contenders’

    Of course, the only ‘credible contender’ that is considering a jump is a former WWF ‘wrestler’…so maybe it fits. Perhaps a circus clown will file. Oh, wait, we already have Norm.

  32. 32 32 TwoPuttTommy

    Getting back to the subject of this thread, despite the swifboating of Franken perpetuated by goons like Scrotee, this race’s numbers are essentially the same as they were before the swiftboating started. Furthermore, despite the slime tossed at Franken:

    “Despite the flap over Franken’s writings and comments, Coleman has a statistically insignificant lead over Franken – 46% to 45% — among women voters. Men give the edge to the Republican 49% to 44%. “

    The real result of the desperate swiftboating is Ron Carey is now noted as the biggest hypocrite in Minnesota; the republiCon party’s FEC paperwork is back on the media’s radar screen, Laura Brod is now viewed as a waterboy, and Abramoff is now in play.

    And the bootlickers like Swiftee think that Norm’s running a good campaign.

  33. 33 33 TwoPuttTommy

    Scrotee posted:

    “>em>Oh, yes I have, Jismo. I plan to meet him quite a bit more this summer, too.”

    If I were a DFL candidate, I’d have a restraining order on Scrotee. Any DFL candidate. This is a guy that’s wrapped way too tight.

  34. 34 34 Swiftee

    “I’d have a restraining order…”

    What’s the matter, dolt #1? Holding your mommy’s hand isn’t working anymore? The monster under the bed been scaring you again?

    Poor little guy.

    Pfft.

    BTW, dolt #1; nice attempt at hypertext. What a tool.

  35. 35 35 TwoPuttTommy

    Speakin’ o’ “tools”, Scrotee - why exactly did you post that link to full frontal male nudity, over on MDE? And you put that link up real quick; why do you know exactly where links to full frontal male nudity is, Scrotee?

  36. 36 36 Typical Frightened Right Wing Guy

    Swiftee, I agree 100%

    It is common knowledge that moonbats who disagree with our opinions are dolts, and tools.

    They not only hate America, but want us to surrender to terrorists, don’t they.

    What is most important is that we Republicans tell people what these moonbats are saying. People don’t need to hear the moonbats, only our explanation of them. Try very hard to keep telling people what moonbats are saying. Hopefully nobody will listen to what these moonbats actually say.

    Keep spreading discontent on the internet and sending “leftists” to the third ring of hell. That is what they all deserve, ever one of “them”.

    Great Job!

  37. 37 37 Charley

    I would ask readers to go through the entire post and comments, then try to see where there was any mention of any issue affecting Minnesota lives. Can you see any mention of war policy, energy policy, education funding or policy, infrastructure funding, public debt, support of veterans, etc. etc. etc.

    It looks very much like we are going to have an exciting Senate race hanging on a very crucial question: Do we want a skirt-chaser or a pornographer as our next senator? This is nonsense.

    I truly wish we could have a better discussion here. This was never how I imagined how an informed electorate would pick people to represent them in Washington.

  38. 38 38 TwoPuttTommy

    Charley, I couldn’t personally care less less if ol’ Smokescreen is bangin’ each and every consenting adult that wants to play with him.

    The issue isn’t ol’ Smokescreen cheatin’ on his wife; the issue is hypocrisy (which ususally is somewhere close to any issue when the GreedOverPrinciples party is involved).

    I’m not gonna get involved the game of rippin’ Norm ‘cause he can’t keep his zipper up. It’s Norm’s record that I’m focusing on; such as how his committee never investigated the forced prostitution on an island where the American Flag flies - Saipan, and how Norm’s committee never investigated Abramoff.

    Oh - and I’m gonna be lookin’ at the business aspects of Laurie’s Blo And Go. She claims she’s been in business for over 4 years, but doesn’t report income on Norm’s FEC Filings. So, is she a lousy bidness woman (which is entirely plausible; Norm’s always pulled down a gov’t check), or are there some shenanigans with the funding of Blo And Go?

    Stay tuned!!!

  39. 39 39 Demure One

    TPT - you’re going to try to get a dialog going about Norm ignoring forced prostitution on Saipan? Here’s Franken’s recent take on prostitution - and yes it’s from the EVIL MDE blog. http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/03/14/franken-asian-stereotype-shock-video/
    But here’s the point - the DFL sold out so many groups when they backed Franken. Getting meaningful dialog about the need for equal pay to the need for fair and affordable health coverage going isn’t going to happen.

  40. 40 40 Dan

    Charley, that was kind of my point. Not only are the attacks on Coleman as a skirt chaser or a non-Minnesotan not going to work, they steer us right back into the non-issue based campaign, which is exactly where Coleman wants it.

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