Comments on: New SurveyUSA Poll Gives Coleman Large Lead http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:41:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Eva Young http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17024 Eva Young Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:22:07 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17024 While you have a point about the autodialing methodology of Survey USA, and the small sample size for the African American voters, the numbers for African American voters for Norm Coleman are not surprising. Remember he did reach out to minority communities during both his runs for Mayor. (Part of the way he did that was by hyping up the anti-gay card). While you have a point about the autodialing methodology of Survey USA, and the small sample size for the African American voters, the numbers for African American voters for Norm Coleman are not surprising. Remember he did reach out to minority communities during both his runs for Mayor. (Part of the way he did that was by hyping up the anti-gay card).

]]> By: mnpolwatcher http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17023 mnpolwatcher Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:54:34 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17023 Danno, I'm not saying Al Franken is sexist. I'm saying his proposed skits about rape, his jokes about drugging women, his comments that the only people who like getting abortions are rape victims, his joke that "no one like a gay-bashing joke better than (Al)," his satire about phone sex with Asian women and his reference to Republicans as "right wing mother fu$*ers" and "shameless dic*ks" are offensive and a few reasons why Al Franken isn't the strongest candidate for the DFL this year. Danno,

I’m not saying Al Franken is sexist. I’m saying his proposed skits about rape, his jokes about drugging women, his comments that the only people who like getting abortions are rape victims, his joke that “no one like a gay-bashing joke better than (Al),” his satire about phone sex with Asian women and his reference to Republicans as “right wing mother fu$*ers” and “shameless dic*ks” are offensive and a few reasons why Al Franken isn’t the strongest candidate for the DFL this year.

]]> By: Student Guy http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17022 Student Guy Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:44:09 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17022 I posted on myDD a take down of the two polls without checking here first. It is good to see my reasoning is backed up by people with better political minds than myself. I posted on myDD a take down of the two polls without checking here first. It is good to see my reasoning is backed up by people with better political minds than myself.

]]> By: TwoPuttTommy http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17021 TwoPuttTommy Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:27:16 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17021 From Rasmussen, just last week: <em>Election 2008: Minnesota Senate Minnesota Senate: Coleman 48% Franken 45%, Ventura a Wild Card Friday, June 13, 2008 Email to a Friend The recent flare-up over an old article Democratic nominee Al Franken wrote for Playboy magazine has had little impact on the Minnesota Senate race, with incumbent Republican Norm Coleman holding on to a narrow 48% to 45% lead. </em> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/minnesota/election_2008_minnesota_senate OK, last Friday, Rasmussen says Coleman "narrow lead", but somehow, according to Survey USA (after the weekend), Coleman's blown the doors off and is now stomping Franken. Just another one of those things that makes one go: "hmmmmm.....wassup with that??!?" From Rasmussen, just last week:

Election 2008: Minnesota Senate

Minnesota Senate: Coleman 48% Franken 45%, Ventura a Wild Card
Friday, June 13, 2008 Email to a Friend

The recent flare-up over an old article Democratic nominee Al Franken wrote for Playboy magazine has had little impact on the Minnesota Senate race, with incumbent Republican Norm Coleman holding on to a narrow 48% to 45% lead.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/minnesota/election_2008_minnesota_senate

OK, last Friday, Rasmussen says Coleman “narrow lead”, but somehow, according to Survey USA (after the weekend), Coleman’s blown the doors off and is now stomping Franken.

Just another one of those things that makes one go: “hmmmmm…..wassup with that??!?”

]]> By: CrazyLeftie http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17020 CrazyLeftie Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:38:14 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17020 If Coleman gets re-elected in Minnesota, we all deserve every ounce of his incompetence and ditto-headed, power-hungry decision making capability. He is a total sycophant, who occasionally exhibits the ability to think for himself. A good legislator, who actually looks out for the WHOLE constituency he serves, ALWAYS thinks for himself. We need some new blood in that seat, even if we don't all love who it is. If Coleman gets re-elected in Minnesota, we all deserve every ounce of his incompetence and ditto-headed, power-hungry decision making capability. He is a total sycophant, who occasionally exhibits the ability to think for himself. A good legislator, who actually looks out for the WHOLE constituency he serves, ALWAYS thinks for himself. We need some new blood in that seat, even if we don’t all love who it is.

]]> By: Dan http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17019 Dan Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:24:11 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17019 1) Franken has sucked this season. 2) Did I mention that Franken has absolutely sucked this season? 1) Franken has sucked this season.

2) Did I mention that Franken has absolutely sucked this season?

]]> By: lojasmo http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17018 lojasmo Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:17:05 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17018 1) Ciresi has sworn to abide by the endorsement 2) SUSA has sucked this season. 3) Franken won't go back to NY. 4) Walz won't abandon his campaign and district to run for senate against an endorsed democrat. 5) Did I mention SUSA has absolutely sucked this season? 1) Ciresi has sworn to abide by the endorsement

2) SUSA has sucked this season.

3) Franken won’t go back to NY.

4) Walz won’t abandon his campaign and district to run for senate against an endorsed democrat.

5) Did I mention SUSA has absolutely sucked this season?

]]> By: DavidD http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17017 DavidD Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:59:48 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17017 I think it says a lot about both candidates when Ventura gets a large chunk of the vote without even being in the race. It really shows that both Franken and Coleman are poor candidates. It will be an interesting race, nonetheless! I think it says a lot about both candidates when Ventura gets a large chunk of the vote without even being in the race. It really shows that both Franken and Coleman are poor candidates. It will be an interesting race, nonetheless!

]]> By: Danno http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17016 Danno Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:34:20 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17016 mnpolwatcher: It's funny that everyone talks about jokes involving raping women. There were no jokes performed involving that. There were brainstorming sessions for jokes for SNL, that involved some material like that. It's a little different. If the idea for a joke had been about murder (which, there have been plenty on SNL actually performed), I don't think that we could get way with calling Al homicidal. It's just easy to call him sexist, because it's impossible to prove one way or another. mnpolwatcher:

It’s funny that everyone talks about jokes involving raping women. There were no jokes performed involving that. There were brainstorming sessions for jokes for SNL, that involved some material like that. It’s a little different. If the idea for a joke had been about murder (which, there have been plenty on SNL actually performed), I don’t think that we could get way with calling Al homicidal. It’s just easy to call him sexist, because it’s impossible to prove one way or another.

]]> By: swiftee http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17015 swiftee Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:52:40 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17015 I bet that the furniture will be on it's way East by September; the contents of the sock drawers by Oct. I bet that the furniture will be on it’s way East by September; the contents of the sock drawers by Oct.

]]> By: Dan http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17014 Dan Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:15:28 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17014 After Franken loses the election, how long do you think it will take him to move back to New York? After Franken loses the election, how long do you think it will take him to move back to New York?

]]> By: Paulsing http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17013 Paulsing Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:11:40 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17013 Ciresi gets back in if the party asks him to, and the party will not ask him to. Franken is such a conceited SOB that he'd never drop out, no matter what happened to him. So really, there is no way anything is going to change. It's Franken v. Coleman for the next five months, and as soon as the primary filing deadline passes in July, it's on. I expect that at that point amuseinc, west metro dem, and TwoPutt will knock on as many doors for Al as possible and stop posting so much on the blogs. Ciresi gets back in if the party asks him to, and the party will not ask him to. Franken is such a conceited SOB that he’d never drop out, no matter what happened to him. So really, there is no way anything is going to change. It’s Franken v. Coleman for the next five months, and as soon as the primary filing deadline passes in July, it’s on.

I expect that at that point amuseinc, west metro dem, and TwoPutt will knock on as many doors for Al as possible and stop posting so much on the blogs.

]]> By: James http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17012 James Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:00:20 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17012 we must do everything we can to draft tim walz to run for senate. al is clearly the second coming of mike hatch. sorry al fan's, being star struck is not a reason to deny the obvious that franken won't win. i would hate to see the democrats give up a seat in the senate in such an easy win year simply because out of touch dfl activists can't admit they have chosen a bad horse in the race. we must do everything we can to draft tim walz to run for senate. al is clearly the second coming of mike hatch. sorry al fan’s, being star struck is not a reason to deny the obvious that franken won’t win. i would hate to see the democrats give up a seat in the senate in such an easy win year simply because out of touch dfl activists can’t admit they have chosen a bad horse in the race.

]]> By: mnpolwatcher http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17011 mnpolwatcher Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:50:35 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17011 "Among Black voters, Franken only leads 51% - 39%. That can't be right." No way. Black voters obviously don't think for themselves, nor would they be offended by jokes about raping or drugging women. Nice commentary, Zack. “Among Black voters, Franken only leads 51% - 39%. That can’t be right.”

No way. Black voters obviously don’t think for themselves, nor would they be offended by jokes about raping or drugging women. Nice commentary, Zack.

]]> By: swiftee http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17010 swiftee Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:42:22 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17010 I liked amuseinc's response. As TFRWG might say: Agree 100% I liked amuseinc’s response. As TFRWG might say:

Agree 100%

]]> By: amuseinc http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17009 amuseinc Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:38:38 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17009 It isn't that hard to understand... to him the Fifth is batshit crazy... mostly because they vote Democratic. This is news that a Republican buffoon (correct spelling) thinks it an insult to associate Franken with CD5? For both of them from his tone. Sorry but if there is more depth than that I don't see it... Al Franken won an endorsement from the statewide party... from Warroad to Albert Lea... not just the extreme left of the party. Mike Cerisi is a moot point right now... or actually at the point I noticed 2 Cerisi supporters out of 250 people at my caucus his campaign looked to be over. Equal split between Franken and JNP. Liberal South Minneapolis goes liberal... will wonders ever cease. It is only Republicans who think Al Franken is anything more than a Minnesota moderate who is just left of center, just ask any JNP supporter for the real lefts candidate. Hell you want a laugh ask a Southern or Western Republican of what they think of Minnesota Republicans. It isn’t that hard to understand… to him the Fifth is batshit crazy… mostly because they vote Democratic. This is news that a Republican buffoon (correct spelling) thinks it an insult to associate Franken with CD5? For both of them from his tone.

Sorry but if there is more depth than that I don’t see it… Al Franken won an endorsement from the statewide party… from Warroad to Albert Lea… not just the extreme left of the party. Mike Cerisi is a moot point right now… or actually at the point I noticed 2 Cerisi supporters out of 250 people at my caucus his campaign looked to be over. Equal split between Franken and JNP. Liberal South Minneapolis goes liberal… will wonders ever cease.

It is only Republicans who think Al Franken is anything more than a Minnesota moderate who is just left of center, just ask any JNP supporter for the real lefts candidate. Hell you want a laugh ask a Southern or Western Republican of what they think of Minnesota Republicans.

]]> By: Dan http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17008 Dan Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:45:25 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17008 amusenic, I want you to re-read swiftee's comment, think about what he is trying to say, and then try again. amusenic, I want you to re-read swiftee’s comment, think about what he is trying to say, and then try again.

]]> By: AK http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17007 AK Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:41:57 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17007 Taking on both Franken and Coleman would be huge tasks for Ciresi because he hasn't proven the ability to inspire the base. That would require him to finance such a run. He has the money and so does Kelly Doran, but would they want to spend their fortunes on a long-shot bid? I don't know if there is a candidate that could pull it off in less than five months- maybe Alan Page or David Wellstone. Taking on both Franken and Coleman would be huge tasks for Ciresi because he hasn’t proven the ability to inspire the base. That would require him to finance such a run. He has the money and so does Kelly Doran, but would they want to spend their fortunes on a long-shot bid? I don’t know if there is a candidate that could pull it off in less than five months- maybe Alan Page or David Wellstone.

]]> By: amuseinc http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17006 amuseinc Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:38:45 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17006 Hhhmmmm...Minnesota's 5th congressional district. They have elected only DFL candidates to Congress since 1962. That is before most of the Republicans on this board were born. In 2006 Martin Olav Sabo, who retired after successfully serving the district for 28 years was succeeded by former State Rep. Keith Ellison. Congressman Ellison is the first person of the Muslim faith to be elected to Congress in the history of the United States. We are both loyal and historic. How exactly does that qualify for anything but the strongest, most stalwart DFL political unit in the state? I will also mention that this years GOTV campaign is going to blow the doors off the Republicans. Got any idea of how many registered Democratic voters there are in the district Swiftee? Well by November there are going to be lots more. Them that gots the votes gets the office... Hhhmmmm…Minnesota’s 5th congressional district. They have elected only DFL candidates to Congress since 1962. That is before most of the Republicans on this board were born.

In 2006 Martin Olav Sabo, who retired after successfully serving the district for 28 years was succeeded by former State Rep. Keith Ellison. Congressman Ellison is the first person of the Muslim faith to be elected to Congress in the history of the United States. We are both loyal and historic.

How exactly does that qualify for anything but the strongest, most stalwart DFL political unit in the state? I will also mention that this years GOTV campaign is going to blow the doors off the Republicans. Got any idea of how many registered Democratic voters there are in the district Swiftee? Well by November there are going to be lots more.

Them that gots the votes gets the office…

]]> By: Dan http://mnpublius.com/2008/06/new-surveyusa-poll-gives-coleman-large-lead/#comment-17005 Dan Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:01:15 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=187#comment-17005 Seeing how Ciresi, doing absolutely nothing, runs better than Franken, who is campaigning full time, it certainly isn't too late to switch. I just isn't going to happen. The only way Ciresi is going to run is if Franken drops out, and Franken is only going to drop out if he is badly wounded by another scandal. Seeing how Ciresi, doing absolutely nothing, runs better than Franken, who is campaigning full time, it certainly isn’t too late to switch. I just isn’t going to happen. The only way Ciresi is going to run is if Franken drops out, and Franken is only going to drop out if he is badly wounded by another scandal.

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