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	<title>Comments on: Coleman Keeps Stevens&#8217; Dirty Money</title>
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		<title>By: Oil-Stained PAC Money: How Much is Coleman Really Giving&#160;Away? &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20490</link>
		<dc:creator>Oil-Stained PAC Money: How Much is Coleman Really Giving&#160;Away? &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the money Coleman received from Ted Stevens&#8217; PAC and VECO, Coleman said he wasn&#8217;t going to give away any of it. Then he changed his mind, for political reasons. He was going to give away $10,000 of it. Then [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the money Coleman received from Ted Stevens&#8217; PAC and VECO, Coleman said he wasn&#8217;t going to give away any of it. Then he changed his mind, for political reasons. He was going to give away $10,000 of it. Then&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman Changes His Mind on Stevens&#8217;&#160;Money &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20468</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman Changes His Mind on Stevens&#8217;&#160;Money &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wonder what really caused him to change his mind? Remember that the first statement, less than 24 hours ago&#160;was: Coleman called the indictment “a very, very serious matter,” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] wonder what really caused him to change his mind? Remember that the first statement, less than 24 hours ago&nbsp;was: Coleman called the indictment “a very, very serious matter,”&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: amuseinc</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20464</link>
		<dc:creator>amuseinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republican Senator indicted for financial misconduct. Why is this even news any more? Norm Coleman grabs the money and runs... why is this even news? Sheesh, the next thing you know somebody will be surprised that Norm Coleman has been changing his votes from being a total Bush buttboy to just 80% buttboy and 20% hiding from his Republican designation on votes that don&#039;t matter. In Norm&#039;s case, don&#039;t be surprised if a liar lies to you... and don&#039;t be surprised if a money grubber grubs ill gotten gains</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republican Senator indicted for financial misconduct. Why is this even news any more? Norm Coleman grabs the money and runs&#8230; why is this even news? Sheesh, the next thing you know somebody will be surprised that Norm Coleman has been changing his votes from being a total Bush buttboy to just 80% buttboy and 20% hiding from his Republican designation on votes that don&#8217;t matter. In Norm&#8217;s case, don&#8217;t be surprised if a liar lies to you&#8230; and don&#8217;t be surprised if a money grubber grubs ill gotten&nbsp;gains</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20456</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean2--I know the distinction, although I think nothing makes a defendant sound guiltier than leading off his first public statement with a recitation of his many years of faithful service.  My point was that I don&#039;t understand why this would be an issue only if someone other than Al Franken were running.

Rich--bribery would require some proof that the &quot;gift&quot; was made with the intent to influence action.  A generalized attempt to curry favor with a powerful Senator because it will help sometime down the road does not count as bribery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean2&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;I know the distinction, although I think nothing makes a defendant sound guiltier than leading off his first public statement with a recitation of his many years of faithful service.  My point was that I don&#8217;t understand why this would be an issue only if someone other than Al Franken were&nbsp;running.</p>
<p>Rich&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;bribery would require some proof that the &#8220;gift&#8221; was made with the intent to influence action.  A generalized attempt to curry favor with a powerful Senator because it will help sometime down the road does not count as&nbsp;bribery.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Goldsmith</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20442</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Goldsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to take up for Coleman, but technically he&#039;s not wrong. Craig pled guilty, so was, by definition, guilty. Stevens, no matter what evidence is assembled against him, hasn&#039;t had his day in court yet. And the Justice Dept. apparently doesn&#039;t think they have all that great a case against him or they would&#039;ve gone for the more serious bribery charge rather than just lying on his financial statements. 

Bottom line, the truly self-righteous thing for Coleman to do would be to give the money back, of course, but it&#039;s fairly pointless to take him to task for taking a wait and see approach. And if he keeps the money after a conviction -- feel free to give him a close broadsides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to take up for Coleman, but technically he&#8217;s not wrong. Craig pled guilty, so was, by definition, guilty. Stevens, no matter what evidence is assembled against him, hasn&#8217;t had his day in court yet. And the Justice Dept. apparently doesn&#8217;t think they have all that great a case against him or they would&#8217;ve gone for the more serious bribery charge rather than just lying on his financial&nbsp;statements. </p>
<p>Bottom line, the truly self-righteous thing for Coleman to do would be to give the money back, of course, but it&#8217;s fairly pointless to take him to task for taking a wait and see approach. And if he keeps the money after a conviction&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;feel free to give him a close&nbsp;broadsides.</p>
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		<title>By: Typical Frightened Right Wing Guy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20439</link>
		<dc:creator>Typical Frightened Right Wing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean2 I agree 100%,

There are some Americans who we Republicans say are guilty before they are proven innocent. They are just moonbats who hate America and want us to lose in Iraq, so they do not deserve the benefit of a doubt. They cannot be trusted and are wrong on the issues.

Ted Stevens, on the other hand, is 100% correct on the issues. He has consistently repeated the exact same talking points we Republicans say over and over and over again. He is innocent until proven guilty.

We Republicans decide who gets treated one way, and who gets treated another. WE ARE THE DECIDERS

Why don&#039;t you moonbats get that?

Great Job Sean2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean2 I agree&nbsp;100%,</p>
<p>There are some Americans who we Republicans say are guilty before they are proven innocent. They are just moonbats who hate America and want us to lose in Iraq, so they do not deserve the benefit of a doubt. They cannot be trusted and are wrong on the&nbsp;issues.</p>
<p>Ted Stevens, on the other hand, is 100% correct on the issues. He has consistently repeated the exact same talking points we Republicans say over and over and over again. He is innocent until proven&nbsp;guilty.</p>
<p>We Republicans decide who gets treated one way, and who gets treated another. WE ARE THE&nbsp;DECIDERS</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you moonbats get&nbsp;that?</p>
<p>Great Job&nbsp;Sean2</p>
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		<title>By: Sean2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy -- innocent until proven guilty. If Stevens is convicted, then it is fair to criticize Coleman if he doesn&#039;t give the money back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;innocent until proven guilty. If Stevens is convicted, then it is fair to criticize Coleman if he doesn&#8217;t give the money&nbsp;back.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20433</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fair, I don&#039;t come close to understanding your reasoning.  Is keeping campaign money from a Senator under indictment (for a crime far worse than trying to hook up in the can) ok if your opponent doesn&#039;t meet your standards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fair, I don&#8217;t come close to understanding your reasoning.  Is keeping campaign money from a Senator under indictment (for a crime far worse than trying to hook up in the can) ok if your opponent doesn&#8217;t meet your&nbsp;standards?</p>
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		<title>By: Virtually Speaking</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20430</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtually Speaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Stevens looks natty in a Navy blazer with blue silk tie and matching hankie.

Wonder if he&#039;ll look as dapper in Penitentiary Orange Jumpsuit?

And can he be roommates with Randy &#039;Duke&#039; Cunningham so he doesn&#039;t get lonely?

Or will we build a special new Pen for former members of Congress?

Oh Wait: it&#039;s premature to ask these questions since our judicial system presumes him innocent until proven guilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Stevens looks natty in a Navy blazer with blue silk tie and matching&nbsp;hankie.</p>
<p>Wonder if he&#8217;ll look as dapper in Penitentiary Orange&nbsp;Jumpsuit?</p>
<p>And can he be roommates with Randy &#8216;Duke&#8217; Cunningham so he doesn&#8217;t get&nbsp;lonely?</p>
<p>Or will we build a special new Pen for former members of&nbsp;Congress?</p>
<p>Oh Wait: it&#8217;s premature to ask these questions since our judicial system presumes him innocent until proven&nbsp;guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: Mockingbird</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/07/coleman-keeps-stevens-dirty-money/#comment-20426</link>
		<dc:creator>Mockingbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coleman&#039;s a good dog. He shouldn&#039;t have to return favor money given by disputable people.
That is something which should only ever happen to th people on the left?

Didn&#039;t you get your RW talking points this morning?

---------Karen Ryan reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coleman&#8217;s a good dog. He shouldn&#8217;t have to return favor money given by disputable people.<br />
That is something which should only ever happen to th people on the&nbsp;left?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you get your RW talking points this&nbsp;morning?</p>
<p>&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;-Karen Ryan&nbsp;reporting.</p>
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