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	<title>Comments on: Coleman Likely In Violation of the Congressional Gift Ban</title>
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	<description>Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FEC Complaint: Coleman&#8217;s FLS Connect Connections Too Connected. It&#8217;s Illegal,&#160;Actually. &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-24273</link>
		<dc:creator>FEC Complaint: Coleman&#8217;s FLS Connect Connections Too Connected. It&#8217;s Illegal,&#160;Actually. &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] utilities until it was investigated by the press. Even after the lease was signed, Coleman&#8217;s rate is significantly under market value. More importantly, Coleman&#8217;s rental unit shares an office which is used by FLS Connect. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] utilities until it was investigated by the press. Even after the lease was signed, Coleman&#8217;s rate is significantly under market value. More importantly, Coleman&#8217;s rental unit shares an office which is used by FLS Connect.&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman Campaign Desperate&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;Even More Desperate Than&#160;Before &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-22333</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman Campaign Desperate&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;Even More Desperate Than&#160;Before &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] addition, Coleman has been caught taking a year&#8217;s worth of free utilities, violating the Senate Gift Ban. Coleman and indicted Senator Ted Stevens and criminal VECO executives spent a lot of time [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] addition, Coleman has been caught taking a year&#8217;s worth of free utilities, violating the Senate Gift Ban. Coleman and indicted Senator Ted Stevens and criminal VECO executives spent a lot of time&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman Scrambles as Ethics Issues Heat&#160;Up &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21488</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman Scrambles as Ethics Issues Heat&#160;Up &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there was buzz about Coleman&#8217;s likely ethics violation and today it is being examined further. From Talking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] there was buzz about Coleman&#8217;s likely ethics violation and today it is being examined further. From Talking&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: TwoPuttTommy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21406</link>
		<dc:creator>TwoPuttTommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KH,  while your arguments are technically correct, Coleman's actions since this story broke clearly stretch credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KH,  while your arguments are technically correct, Coleman&#8217;s actions since this story broke clearly stretch&nbsp;credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21405</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TPT,

It wasn't a try.  That information was not presented.  Even if it was, "rare" and "only if" are the phrases that show you do not have anything definitive.

On top of that it has yet to be shown that what he is paying is low for what he is receiving.  I was not aware of a law that stated that any elected official renting an apartment needs to pay utilities separate from rent.

I agree that there is most likely something wrong and would like it to come out.  There just is no smoking gun, yet.  His post-facto lease and utilities check are the most damning evidence to date.  The key would still be to show, in a standardized and unbiased way, that he is paying substantially under market rate.  Without that it just "looks like something" or could be blown off as "sloppy book keeping".  Not that I would buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TPT,</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t a try.  That information was not presented.  Even if it was, &#8220;rare&#8221; and &#8220;only if&#8221; are the phrases that show you do not have anything definitive.</p>
<p>On top of that it has yet to be shown that what he is paying is low for what he is receiving.  I was not aware of a law that stated that any elected official renting an apartment needs to pay utilities separate from rent.</p>
<p>I agree that there is most likely something wrong and would like it to come out.  There just is no smoking gun, yet.  His post-facto lease and utilities check are the most damning evidence to date.  The key would still be to show, in a standardized and unbiased way, that he is paying substantially under market rate.  Without that it just &#8220;looks like something&#8221; or could be blown off as &#8220;sloppy book keeping&#8221;.  Not that I would buy&nbsp;it.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman&#8217;s Gifts: Didn&#8217;t Have a Lease, Hasn&#8217;t Paid&#160;Utilities &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21402</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman&#8217;s Gifts: Didn&#8217;t Have a Lease, Hasn&#8217;t Paid&#160;Utilities &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The first part is a huge lie: Coleman has not been transparent, open and honest about any of this situation. He has only revealed information about his living situation only after being repeatedly questioned by&#160;reporters. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The first part is a huge lie: Coleman has not been transparent, open and honest about any of this situation. He has only revealed information about his living situation only after being repeatedly questioned by&nbsp;reporters.&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: southwestdem</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21400</link>
		<dc:creator>southwestdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be very easy for Coleman to produce a utility bill and a canceled check.  After all, don't we all keep records of things like that?

I am sure the Senate Ethics Committee can look into this next month.

As Ricky would say, Norm has some splainin to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be very easy for Coleman to produce a utility bill and a canceled check.  After all, don&#8217;t we all keep records of things like that?</p>
<p>I am sure the Senate Ethics Committee can look into this next month.</p>
<p>As Ricky would say, Norm has some splainin to&nbsp;do.</p>
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		<title>By: TwoPuttTommy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21398</link>
		<dc:creator>TwoPuttTommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KH, these are the facts:  the area Norm is occupying is a distinct and legal and licensed rental unit, and the utility (PepCo) confirmed there are two meters.  The electric is seperate.  Period.  That's the way it works, in D.C., to get a Certificate of Occupancy.  I was told it was very rare, and only in cases of "grandfathered in" that a Certificate of Occupancy would be issued with the seperate unit NOT having seperately metered electric.

Nice try, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KH, these are the facts:  the area Norm is occupying is a distinct and legal and licensed rental unit, and the utility (PepCo) confirmed there are two meters.  The electric is seperate.  Period.  That&#8217;s the way it works, in D.C., to get a Certificate of Occupancy.  I was told it was very rare, and only in cases of &#8220;grandfathered in&#8221; that a Certificate of Occupancy would be issued with the seperate unit NOT having seperately metered electric.</p>
<p>Nice try,&nbsp;though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21395</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it would be good for Coleman to open up about his rental arrangement there has yet to be any verifiable facts that show he is paying substantially below market rate for rent or that he is responsible for the utilities.  While two meters make it possible he is responsible for utilities it does not mean that the metered service is under his control or measures the utility for only the space he is renting.

While questioning the arrangement is a good thing so far only the possibility of a violation has been shown.  Not any evidence that it has actually occurred.  Getting any politician on an ethics violation is a very good thing.  But if it ends up being nothing more than mud slinging it will only increase people's cynicism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it would be good for Coleman to open up about his rental arrangement there has yet to be any verifiable facts that show he is paying substantially below market rate for rent or that he is responsible for the utilities.  While two meters make it possible he is responsible for utilities it does not mean that the metered service is under his control or measures the utility for only the space he is renting.</p>
<p>While questioning the arrangement is a good thing so far only the possibility of a violation has been shown.  Not any evidence that it has actually occurred.  Getting any politician on an ethics violation is a very good thing.  But if it ends up being nothing more than mud slinging it will only increase people&#8217;s&nbsp;cynicism.</p>
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		<title>By: TwoPuttTommy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-likely-in-violation-of-the-congressional-gift-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-21394</link>
		<dc:creator>TwoPuttTommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just verified - thrugh PepCo, the utility - that the townhouse in D.C. has two - count 'em, TWO - meters.

http://www.mnblue.com/node/1993

&lt;em&gt;"But I digress. There really are two questions that are very important:

1 - In what name is the billing account for Norm's rental unit in; and

2 - who is paying the tab.

So now it's 'fess up time, for Norm. And not only does he need to show a bill in his name, he needs to show a cancelled check, too."&lt;/em&gt;

This is big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just verified - thrugh PepCo, the utility - that the townhouse in D.C. has two - count &#8216;em, TWO - meters.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mnblue.com/node/1993" rel="nofollow">http://www.mnblue.com/node/1993</a></p>
<p><em>&#8220;But I digress. There really are two questions that are very important:</p>
<p>1 - In what name is the billing account for Norm&#8217;s rental unit in; and</p>
<p>2 - who is paying the tab.</p>
<p>So now it&#8217;s &#8216;fess up time, for Norm. And not only does he need to show a bill in his name, he needs to show a cancelled check, too.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>This is&nbsp;big.</p>
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