Comments on: Coleman to Speak to Business Leaders on Health Care http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:47:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Reactions to KSTP’s Bizarre RNC Love Letter | MNpublius.com http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-23501 Reactions to KSTP’s Bizarre RNC Love Letter | MNpublius.com Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:52:50 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2202#comment-23501 [...] is a huge contributor to Coleman’s campaign and KSTP’s Tom Houser recently “moderated” a Coleman event for [...] […] is a huge contributor to Coleman’s campaign and KSTP’s Tom Houser recently “moderated” a Coleman event for […]

]]> By: Richard http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-21984 Richard Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:33:50 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2202#comment-21984 Yes, Dan, what a great idea. Let's keep the parasitic insurance corporations involved in the health care system but we'll make them more efficient. Much of the administrative costs are from the insurance corporations not efficiently collecting their money. Well, maybe not. Face it Dan, you are on exactly the wrong side of this issue and I think you know it. As a businessman, who I'm assuming isn't involved the insurance industry, I would think you would immediately see the single payer system as the most cost efficient method. Getting the insurance industry out of the system will save billions. Yes, Dan, what a great idea. Let’s keep the parasitic insurance corporations involved in the health care system but we’ll make them more efficient. Much of the administrative costs are from the insurance corporations not efficiently collecting their money. Well, maybe not.

Face it Dan, you are on exactly the wrong side of this issue and I think you know it. As a businessman, who I’m assuming isn’t involved the insurance industry, I would think you would immediately see the single payer system as the most cost efficient method. Getting the insurance industry out of the system will save billions.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-21983 DantheMan Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:38 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2202#comment-21983 The Manhattan Institute debunked that myth long ago. The canadian estimate doesn't account for the cost of collecting additional tax dollars. Our Government ain't exactly efficient. It costs about 20 cents to get $1 to Washington. Your admnistrative savings are killed right there. Plus, we can get administrative savings without shifting to a publicly financed system. Let's focus on that instead. The Manhattan Institute debunked that myth long ago. The canadian estimate doesn’t account for the cost of collecting additional tax dollars. Our Government ain’t exactly efficient. It costs about 20 cents to get $1 to Washington. Your admnistrative savings are killed right there.

Plus, we can get administrative savings without shifting to a publicly financed system. Let’s focus on that instead.

]]> By: lojasmo http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-21979 lojasmo Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:22:09 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2202#comment-21979 Dan- Saying the administrative savings of single payer are overstated is asinine. From the New England Journal of Medicine "Results In 1999, health administration costs totaled at least $294.3 billion in the United States, or $1,059 per capita, as compared with $307 per capita in Canada." Do I really have to keep debunking your asinine statments with THE SAME STUDY TIME AFTER TIME? Dan-

Saying the administrative savings of single payer are overstated is asinine.

From the New England Journal of Medicine

“Results In 1999, health administration costs totaled at least $294.3 billion in the United States, or $1,059 per capita, as compared with $307 per capita in Canada.”

Do I really have to keep debunking your asinine statments with THE SAME STUDY TIME AFTER TIME?

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-21940 DantheMan Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:13:49 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2202#comment-21940 For the record, I do not advocate the current healthcare system which is about 50% government funded and about 30% employer-based. We both agree on that. For the record, I do not advocate the current healthcare system which is about 50% government funded and about 30% employer-based. We both agree on that.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-21938 DantheMan Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:12:40 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2202#comment-21938 Jeff Rosenberg - Changing the financing of healthcare won't fix healthcare. Financing is one piece. You change the financing, and you still have our healthcare system which is in some respects terribly broken and in other respects incredibly innovative. The solution is letting patients drive and direct more of their health care experience, and providing reason for clinicians and administrators to innovate more. The statistics citing the administrative savings of single payer are overstated. There is opportunity for improvement, yes. But not to the degree that single payer advocates claim. And it is a fraction of the saving that could be realized by a more fundamental revamp of our system. Jeff Rosenberg -

Changing the financing of healthcare won’t fix healthcare. Financing is one piece. You change the financing, and you still have our healthcare system which is in some respects terribly broken and in other respects incredibly innovative.

The solution is letting patients drive and direct more of their health care experience, and providing reason for clinicians and administrators to innovate more.

The statistics citing the administrative savings of single payer are overstated. There is opportunity for improvement, yes. But not to the degree that single payer advocates claim. And it is a fraction of the saving that could be realized by a more fundamental revamp of our system.

]]> By: Jeff Rosenberg http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/coleman-to-speak-to-business-leaders-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-21904 Jeff Rosenberg Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:38:52 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2202#comment-21904 Norm should take <a href="http://tcdailyliberal.com/blog/2008/08/franken-universal-healthcare-great-corporations/" rel="nofollow">Al Franken's advice</a>. The best thing we can do for businesses is institute universal single-payer healthcare, to drastically reduce businesses' payments for benefits. Norm should take Al Franken’s advice. The best thing we can do for businesses is institute universal single-payer healthcare, to drastically reduce businesses’ payments for benefits.

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