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	<title>Comments on: Jason Lewis: Brodkorb, Coleman, Senate Republican Caucus are &#8220;The Pinnacle of Elitism&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Being A Kept Blogger Means Never Having To Get Your Facts Straight</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/jason-lewis-brodkorb-coleman-senate-republican-caucus-are-the-pinnacle-of-elitism/#comment-45754</link>
		<dc:creator>Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Being A Kept Blogger Means Never Having To Get Your Facts Straight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] example, in this piece, about the Mark Olson flap: The seemingly coordinated campaign by Republican operative Michael [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] example, in this piece, about the Mark Olson flap: The seemingly coordinated campaign by Republican operative Michael&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Republicans Turn Socialist Squirrel to get &#8220;Bail Out&#8221; off Front Page! &#124; Grizzly Groundswell Video Network</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/jason-lewis-brodkorb-coleman-senate-republican-caucus-are-the-pinnacle-of-elitism/#comment-25687</link>
		<dc:creator>Republicans Turn Socialist Squirrel to get &#8220;Bail Out&#8221; off Front Page! &#124; Grizzly Groundswell Video Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Pinnacle of Elitism Alison Krueger with the help of Senate Victory Fund who sent out some really terrible hit pieces on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the Pinnacle of Elitism Alison Krueger with the help of Senate Victory Fund who sent out some really terrible hit pieces on&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Hilarity Ensues in Senate District 16&#160;GOP &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/jason-lewis-brodkorb-coleman-senate-republican-caucus-are-the-pinnacle-of-elitism/#comment-23977</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilarity Ensues in Senate District 16&#160;GOP &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the GOP SD16 primary. How could he have possibly lost against the unendorsed blessing of the pinnacle of elitism Alison Krueger? Well duh, it was corruption!&#160;(emphasis mine): Olson says he is planning a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in the GOP SD16 primary. How could he have possibly lost against the unendorsed blessing of the pinnacle of elitism Alison Krueger? Well duh, it was corruption!&nbsp;(emphasis mine): Olson says he is planning a&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Emmer</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/jason-lewis-brodkorb-coleman-senate-republican-caucus-are-the-pinnacle-of-elitism/#comment-21835</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Emmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If said &quot;elitists&quot; truly wanted to control the outcome in SD16 they would have made their displeasure with Mark Olson&#039;s candidacy known BEFORE the endorsing convention.  To suggest that anyone should be precluded from having an opinion about the decision of the SD16 delegates runs counter to the Constitution.

The idea that Alison Krueger was chosen by a group of aggressive party elites is patently false.  The only insider that influenced Alison was Senator Betsy Wergin when she asked Alison to run.  I believe much of the SD16 displeasure with Betsy&#039;s suggestion to run Alison was that Betsy didn&#039;t clear it with the SD16 folks first.  Considering Mark Olson supporters chilly regard for Senator Wergin it&#039;s not hard to understand why she would make her suggestion independently.

The MNGOP had nothing to do with Alison Krueger&#039;s candidacy.  Ron Carey did show up and address the endorsing convention.  But the state party organization did not recruit Alison nor did they promote her candidacy.

The best possible outcome for all of us would be if Mark Olson could clear his name legally and have the whole domestic flap removed from his record.  Short of that, the left will use it against him evermore.

And everyone is welcome to their opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If said &#8220;elitists&#8221; truly wanted to control the outcome in SD16 they would have made their displeasure with Mark Olson&#8217;s candidacy known BEFORE the endorsing convention.  To suggest that anyone should be precluded from having an opinion about the decision of the SD16 delegates runs counter to the&nbsp;Constitution.</p>
<p>The idea that Alison Krueger was chosen by a group of aggressive party elites is patently false.  The only insider that influenced Alison was Senator Betsy Wergin when she asked Alison to run.  I believe much of the SD16 displeasure with Betsy&#8217;s suggestion to run Alison was that Betsy didn&#8217;t clear it with the SD16 folks first.  Considering Mark Olson supporters chilly regard for Senator Wergin it&#8217;s not hard to understand why she would make her suggestion&nbsp;independently.</p>
<p>The MNGOP had nothing to do with Alison Krueger&#8217;s candidacy.  Ron Carey did show up and address the endorsing convention.  But the state party organization did not recruit Alison nor did they promote her&nbsp;candidacy.</p>
<p>The best possible outcome for all of us would be if Mark Olson could clear his name legally and have the whole domestic flap removed from his record.  Short of that, the left will use it against him&nbsp;evermore.</p>
<p>And everyone is welcome to their&nbsp;opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bredahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Bredahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Brodkorb,

I would think a man of your intelligence may be able to tell there is a difference between a lie and an error.  Your immediate conclusion is that Mr. Landry is lying in his post and the first thing you write is that Mr. Landy is a Liar.  My congratulations to you for not including &quot;pants on fire.&quot;  This direct accusation indicates that you have information that suggests the assertions being made are intentional and not an error.  You seem to have evidence that Mr. Landry&#039;s post about you being included in the Lewis show is not accurate.  I am not disagreeing with your posts citing why you think it is wrong.  However, I&#039;ve yet to read any evidence you have that Landry&#039;s post here was done intentionally and not in error.  We&#039;re all human, Mr. Brodkorb.  Mistakes can and do happen (even if our President can&#039;t remember any he&#039;s made).  A mistake does not make one a liar.    

I personally don&#039;t believe that you are an elitist, Sir.  Elitists would correct the facts and let the readers decide from themselves.  I know, Joe Six-Pack isn&#039;t a fan of logic, facts, and reason, but that it the way an elitist would have approached the situation.  You decided to go down the name-calling route instead without posting any evidence that shows the apparent/alleged error was intentional.  It truly says something about your character and it definitely isn&#039;t &quot;elite.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr.&nbsp;Brodkorb,</p>
<p>I would think a man of your intelligence may be able to tell there is a difference between a lie and an error.  Your immediate conclusion is that Mr. Landry is lying in his post and the first thing you write is that Mr. Landy is a Liar.  My congratulations to you for not including &#8220;pants on fire.&#8221;  This direct accusation indicates that you have information that suggests the assertions being made are intentional and not an error.  You seem to have evidence that Mr. Landry&#8217;s post about you being included in the Lewis show is not accurate.  I am not disagreeing with your posts citing why you think it is wrong.  However, I&#8217;ve yet to read any evidence you have that Landry&#8217;s post here was done intentionally and not in error.  We&#8217;re all human, Mr. Brodkorb.  Mistakes can and do happen (even if our President can&#8217;t remember any he&#8217;s made).  A mistake does not make one a&nbsp;liar.    </p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t believe that you are an elitist, Sir.  Elitists would correct the facts and let the readers decide from themselves.  I know, Joe Six-Pack isn&#8217;t a fan of logic, facts, and reason, but that it the way an elitist would have approached the situation.  You decided to go down the name-calling route instead without posting any evidence that shows the apparent/alleged error was intentional.  It truly says something about your character and it definitely isn&#8217;t&nbsp;&#8220;elite.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to know why Republicans have done so well in this seemingly blue state, you need look no further than the caucus system.  This system has allowed DFL party hacks to pick lousy candidates again and again and again.  We haven&#039;t won an election for governor since 1986.  

I don&#039;t know if I would call caucuses themselves elitist, as that is such a bogus term anyway, but your insinuation that people who don&#039;t attend are people who don&#039;t &quot;get off the couch&quot; certainly is elitist.  The caucuses require a (or sometimes several, if you go on to other caucuses) several hour committment, which is difficult if you can&#039;t get off of work, have young kids, or are old or otherwise unable to get out for several hours to participate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to know why Republicans have done so well in this seemingly blue state, you need look no further than the caucus system.  This system has allowed DFL party hacks to pick lousy candidates again and again and again.  We haven&#8217;t won an election for governor since&nbsp;1986.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I would call caucuses themselves elitist, as that is such a bogus term anyway, but your insinuation that people who don&#8217;t attend are people who don&#8217;t &#8220;get off the couch&#8221; certainly is elitist.  The caucuses require a (or sometimes several, if you go on to other caucuses) several hour committment, which is difficult if you can&#8217;t get off of work, have young kids, or are old or otherwise unable to get out for several hours to&nbsp;participate.</p>
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		<title>By: The Twin Cities Daily Liberal &#187; The Shrinking GOP: Will Mark Olson&#8217;s endorsement fracture the MNGOP?</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/jason-lewis-brodkorb-coleman-senate-republican-caucus-are-the-pinnacle-of-elitism/#comment-21772</link>
		<dc:creator>The Twin Cities Daily Liberal &#187; The Shrinking GOP: Will Mark Olson&#8217;s endorsement fracture the MNGOP?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the ranks. Jason Lewis, noted talk-radio lunatic, supports Olson (via Dump Mark Olson and MnPublius): I can’t tell you how shocked I was to see the letter from the Senate State Caucus basically [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] in the ranks. Jason Lewis, noted talk-radio lunatic, supports Olson (via Dump Mark Olson and MnPublius): I can’t tell you how shocked I was to see the letter from the Senate State Caucus basically&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of precinct caucuses: First of all, anyone who gets up the gumption to get off the couch and actually show up can attend a precinct caucus. There&#039;s nothing elitist about it. There&#039;s something activist about it, though. If you don&#039;t care enough to show up (it&#039;s free and all are welcome), you don&#039;t have a voice in the endosing process. Same as if you skip the polls, you don&#039;t have a voice in deciding elections. 

Caucuses and endorsing conventions ensure that people who actually care and are engaged make decisions. It&#039;s endorsement by elected representation, like our republic. Caucuses and conventions represent republicanism. Primries more closely resemble pure democracy. This argument actually breaks down as republicans (caucuses and delegates) vs democrats (primaries) in the classic sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of precinct caucuses: First of all, anyone who gets up the gumption to get off the couch and actually show up can attend a precinct caucus. There&#8217;s nothing elitist about it. There&#8217;s something activist about it, though. If you don&#8217;t care enough to show up (it&#8217;s free and all are welcome), you don&#8217;t have a voice in the endosing process. Same as if you skip the polls, you don&#8217;t have a voice in deciding&nbsp;elections. </p>
<p>Caucuses and endorsing conventions ensure that people who actually care and are engaged make decisions. It&#8217;s endorsement by elected representation, like our republic. Caucuses and conventions represent republicanism. Primries more closely resemble pure democracy. This argument actually breaks down as republicans (caucuses and delegates) vs democrats (primaries) in the classic&nbsp;sense.</p>
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		<title>By: TwoPuttTommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TwoPuttTommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chis, I would hope you were correct; but I&#039;m not so sure.  I really feel eliminating caucus for primary will unduly escalate the influence of money.

Then again, I could be wrong.  Don&#039;t tell anyone, but I actually have been...  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chis, I would hope you were correct; but I&#8217;m not so sure.  I really feel eliminating caucus for primary will unduly escalate the influence of&nbsp;money.</p>
<p>Then again, I could be wrong.  Don&#8217;t tell anyone, but I actually have been&#8230;  <img src='http://mnpublius.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two Putt,

I think the most obvious &quot;unintended&quot; consequence of having primaries is that candidates who are perceived as more electable will beat out candidates who are perceived as more electable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two&nbsp;Putt,</p>
<p>I think the most obvious &#8220;unintended&#8221; consequence of having primaries is that candidates who are perceived as more electable will beat out candidates who are perceived as more&nbsp;electable.</p>
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