Comments on: Push Polling in the 3rd http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:25:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: rainman http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-22138 rainman Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:06:56 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-22138 You can be sure Paulsen's campaign will not even acknowledge this is a sleezy practice, and I doubt they will make a statement condemning it....if they did that, they would be condemming their own campaign. Paulsen doesn't have to worry about anybody puch polling him..why waste the time...his record of voting against education, against the transportation bill, and for Big Business speaks for itself. You can be sure Paulsen’s campaign will not even acknowledge this is a sleezy practice, and I doubt they will make a statement condemning it….if they did that, they would be condemming their own campaign. Paulsen doesn’t have to worry about anybody puch polling him..why waste the time…his record of voting against education, against the transportation bill, and for Big Business speaks for itself.

]]> By: Richard http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21985 Richard Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:58:05 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21985 I was push polled by the Coleman campaign 6 weeks ago. I answered several, seemingly legitimate questions honestly then the pollster launched into a series of questions like, "Would you be less likely or more likely to vote for a candidate if you were to find out that,,,?" Of course the "that" was something throughly objectionable. I told the pollster it wouldn't matter. At the end of the poll I asked the pollster who contracted her company to conduct this poll. She couldn't or wouldn't tell me. I then told her she needed to be ashamed of herself. Push polling can be overt or subtle but as a campaign tactic it has to be exposed and punished. I was push polled by the Coleman campaign 6 weeks ago. I answered several, seemingly legitimate questions honestly then the pollster launched into a series of questions like, “Would you be less likely or more likely to vote for a candidate if you were to find out that,,,?” Of course the “that” was something throughly objectionable. I told the pollster it wouldn’t matter. At the end of the poll I asked the pollster who contracted her company to conduct this poll. She couldn’t or wouldn’t tell me. I then told her she needed to be ashamed of herself. Push polling can be overt or subtle but as a campaign tactic it has to be exposed and punished.

]]> By: Paulsen Spokesperson Brodkorb Dishonest About Push Polling | MNpublius.com http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21941 Paulsen Spokesperson Brodkorb Dishonest About Push Polling | MNpublius.com Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:14:37 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21941 [...] Diaries! « Push Polling in the 3rd [...] […] Diaries! « Push Polling in the 3rd […]

]]> By: southwestdem http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21939 southwestdem Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:13:23 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21939 Sworn affidavits. I wonder if Michael Brodkorb is willing to make a sworn affidavit that he really heard and KNOWS FOR A FACT that Madia's campaign or the Union in question is push polling. If he won't, then it looks like what he is being paid to do is change the subject by muddying the waters with innuendo. Sounds like the Madia Campaign has the facts, sworn to be true by 3 people. No name calling here either, just sticking to the facts. Sworn affidavits. I wonder if Michael Brodkorb is willing to make a sworn affidavit that he really heard and KNOWS FOR A FACT that Madia’s campaign or the Union in question is push polling. If he won’t, then it looks like what he is being paid to do is change the subject by muddying the waters with innuendo.

Sounds like the Madia Campaign has the facts, sworn to be true by 3 people.

No name calling here either, just sticking to the facts.

]]> By: amuseinc http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21934 amuseinc Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:28:58 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21934 I'll bite... here is a list of bookmarked sites I have for "News." It is about as mainstream as you can get, nothing shocking there. WSJ doesn't make it as the bias is way too much to use on a daily basis. This is just my starting point of common visits on any given day... pretty normal for any "news interested" Minnesotan I would guess... no particular order, though I always check the foreign press if I think something is particularly important. http://www.startribune.com/ http://www.cnn.com/ http://abcnews.go.com/ http://www.cbsnews.com/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ http://www.newsweek.com/ http://www.usnews.com/ http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS http://www.salon.com/ http://www.nydailynews.com/ http://www.nypost.com/ http://news.google.com/ http://www.latimes.com/ http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=45 http://observer.com/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/ http://www.iht.com/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.winnipegsun.com/ http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/front/index.html http://mdn.mainichi.jp/ http://www.spiegel.de/international/ http://www.twincities.com/ I’ll bite… here is a list of bookmarked sites I have for “News.” It is about as mainstream as you can get, nothing shocking there. WSJ doesn’t make it as the bias is way too much to use on a daily basis.

This is just my starting point of common visits on any given day… pretty normal for any “news interested” Minnesotan I would guess… no particular order, though I always check the foreign press if I think something is particularly important.

http://www.startribune.com/
http://www.cnn.com/
http://abcnews.go.com/
http://www.cbsnews.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
http://www.newsweek.com/
http://www.usnews.com/
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS
http://www.salon.com/
http://www.nydailynews.com/
http://www.nypost.com/
http://news.google.com/
http://www.latimes.com/
http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=45
http://observer.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
http://www.iht.com/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.winnipegsun.com/
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/front/index.html
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/ http://www.twincities.com/

]]> By: cdeesend http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21931 cdeesend Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:48:11 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21931 Definitions: Empirical evidence: provable or verifiable evidence. Anecdotal evidence: based on personal observation, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation The Madia campaign has empirical evidence of this push poll: Three sworn affidavits. An affidavit is a formal sworn statement of fact, signed by the declarant and witnessed as to the veracity of the affiant's signature by a taker of oaths, such as a notary public. Michael Brodkorb, an Erik Paulsen consultant, anecdotally says, "he has heard reports of anti-Paulsen push polling." Hardly credible evidence! Note, if you will, this comment has been submitted with no ad hominum attacks such as "moonbats", "hypocrites in the GreedOverPrinciples party.", “king of the elementary school playground” award","Monte Bute is an assclown." Thereby, I attempt to address the substance of this arguement rather than attacking the person making the arguement in order to discredit the arguement. Definitions:
Empirical evidence: provable or verifiable evidence.
Anecdotal evidence: based on personal observation, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation
The Madia campaign has empirical evidence of this push poll: Three sworn affidavits. An affidavit is a formal sworn statement of fact, signed by the declarant and witnessed as to the veracity of the affiant’s signature by a taker of oaths, such as a notary public.
Michael Brodkorb, an Erik Paulsen consultant, anecdotally says, “he has heard reports of anti-Paulsen push polling.” Hardly credible evidence!
Note, if you will, this comment has been submitted with no ad hominum attacks such as “moonbats”, “hypocrites in the GreedOverPrinciples party.”, “king of the elementary school playground” award”,”Monte Bute is an assclown.” Thereby, I attempt to address the substance of this arguement rather than attacking the person making the arguement in order to discredit the arguement.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21929 DantheMan Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:30:34 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21929 So amuseinc, which news sources would you deem acceptable? I'm interested to hear. And do you deem Obama's Best-Seller books as factual and newsworthy? If so, it is only fair that someone have a chance to tell the other side of the story. So amuseinc, which news sources would you deem acceptable? I’m interested to hear.

And do you deem Obama’s Best-Seller books as factual and newsworthy? If so, it is only fair that someone have a chance to tell the other side of the story.

]]> By: amuseinc http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21925 amuseinc Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:17:13 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21925 I'd rather get my facts from a news source that didn't think privatizing Social Security was a peachy keen idea a mere weeks before the bottom dropped out. The Wall Street Journal is sort of the Republican version of Pravda as far as I can tell only with worse cartoons. I've actually been printed in the Journal many years ago... I spent the money dating a Socialist trollop. So for going even more off topic... both the Reverend and John McCain were lying last week as old John was listening on that new fashioned "phone thingy" for the questions and Obama's answers before he took the stage. Typical Republicans... I’d rather get my facts from a news source that didn’t think privatizing Social Security was a peachy keen idea a mere weeks before the bottom dropped out. The Wall Street Journal is sort of the Republican version of Pravda as far as I can tell only with worse cartoons. I’ve actually been printed in the Journal many years ago… I spent the money dating a Socialist trollop.

So for going even more off topic… both the Reverend and John McCain were lying last week as old John was listening on that new fashioned “phone thingy” for the questions and Obama’s answers before he took the stage. Typical Republicans…

]]> By: TwoPuttTommy http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21924 TwoPuttTommy Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:10:16 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21924 It seems that charges of republiCon push-polling may not be limited to our little patch of tundra. I just googled "promark researcy corporation", and found <a href="http://www.greenmountaindaily.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2971" rel="nofollow">this</a>: <em>Douglas' Texas-based Push-Polls Exploiting Brooke Bennett Tragedy (UPDATED x2) by: odum Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 13:55:55 PM EDT Just got this email from a reader. If true, it is beyond vile and reprehensible: </em> <a href="http://www.greenmountaindaily.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2971" rel="nofollow">(Green Mountain Daily)</a> It seems that charges of republiCon push-polling may not be limited to our little patch of tundra. I just googled “promark researcy corporation”, and found this:

Douglas’ Texas-based Push-Polls Exploiting Brooke Bennett Tragedy (UPDATED x2)
by: odum
Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 13:55:55 PM EDT

Just got this email from a reader. If true, it is beyond vile and reprehensible: (Green Mountain Daily)

]]> By: lojasmo http://mnpublius.com/2008/08/push-polling-in-the-3rd/comment-page-1/#comment-21921 lojasmo Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:58:40 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=2209#comment-21921 DtM Are you going for the off-topic record? Seriously does fecklessness know no bounds? DtM

Are you going for the off-topic record? Seriously does fecklessness know no bounds?

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