The TV spots keep coming. This one is a contrast piece that leaves out everything except for the issues that make a direct impact with most Minnesotans. I think this one will be really effective:
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I like this one. It’s more positive and “feel good”.
It’s no good. Sounds like McCain last night giving a laundry list of distorted facts.
The tone is much better than anything he has put out before but it seems to me to be painfully over-staged. The first comment about Coleman and the war is so obviously dishonest that it makes you question his sincerity on all of the points.
Given the the performance Madia has been giving it seems too bad he isn’t the one running against Coleman. If he were I could see the race being impossible for Coleman to win.
KH, what’s “obviously dishonest”?
Yes, Madia is solid as a rock. Committed, thoughtful, a fiscal conservative and social moderate.
I don’t think it can be honestly stated that Coleman “wants to keep the war going”. I was against the war from the get go and even I don’t buy Coleman as somebody who enjoys war. I think some think, wrongly so in my opinion, that it is a necessary action especially given our responsibility to the Iraqis after the invasion. If Franken had simply said that his plan would support the immediate start to withdrawal while Coleman does not he would have been fine.
Franken doesn’t, as far as I can tell, present a date when all troops should be out. He also supported the invasion as a citizen just as Coleman did. There isn’t enough room between their two positions to claim one will end the war and the other wants it to continue indefinitely.
I like the ad. I think the point about Coleman wanting to keep the war going was a little fuzzy, but not clearly untrue or dishonest. Franken unquestionably wants the troops out faster than Coleman and a 30 second ad doesn’t leave a lot of room for nuance. And this pales in comparison to some of the whoppers that Sarah Palin told the other night.
KH:
Has Coleman voted “yea” on ANY bill which calls for withdrawal of troops? I’d guess “Nay” for sure.
“Franken doesn’t, as far as I can tell, present a date when all troops should be out.”
No credible politician has. Franken certainly has called for immediately beginning withdrawal, with thoughtful consideration of a withdrawal timeline.
lojasmo,
Franken saying he wants to “start bringing home the troops” is meaningless without numbers and dates. It could be one few a month for thousands of years and it doesn’t keep him from supporting another “surge”. It is a hollow statement his supporters can read into whatever they want and feel good about themselves.
Franken’s support of the war in the beginning is more disturbing than Coleman’s. There is a certain sad expectation for a politician to tow their party’s line no matter how foolish. Franken supported the invasion despite being a paid critic of Republicans. He supported a war that even if you believed the BS from the Bush administration was in absolutely no way justified. There were plenty of people that knew it, Wellstone was one. Why do we have to accept somebody else that made it clear they are not up to the job in such a clear way?
There is no way to explain away his completely incompetent decision on the biggest issue since the Kennedy/Johnson decision to go in to Viet Nam. If Franken wasn’t able to make the right call when he had nothing politically to lose there is no way he can convince me he could do it as a sitting Senator.
Kerosene Hat, who are you going to vote for in this race?
Don’t know yet. I’ll wait to decide until after the primary but it won’t be Coleman or Franken. Simply voting for either parties trained loyal monkey continues to get us nowhere. If it takes every election during my lifetime before the parties understand that putting up incompetent, insincere, ego driven people simply because they are loyal to the party are not what we need, than so be it. I do know I will not support anybody that is so obviously capable of making a mistake as deadly as the invasion of Iraq. That isn’t a “purity test” it is a basic test of competence.
KH:
Your assertion is frankly silly. There was a republican senator who voted against the war, as well as a few republican congresspersons.
70% of the American people believed that Sadam was behind 9-11 *not Franken, but you understand what I’m getting at, I’m sure.
Coleman has been a unrelenting cheerleader for this war, and has made no overtures at reaching cessation.
Calling Franken’s position meaningless is, in itself, meaningless. It is not incumbent upon one senatorial challenger to make an entire plan for ending the war in Iraq. It is only necessary to state one’s position, and provide a clear difference between the challenger and the incumbent. Franken has clearly done so.
lojasmo,
Franken’s position is meaningless because it does not offer anything he would have to stand by. His support of the war shows that even as a paid critic of Republicans who has written multiple books that he claims to be impeccably researched he had the same, truly idiotic, opinion of a majority of Americans. Shouldn’t a senator be the people best able to make those decisions? Not one in the bottom 70% when the lives of tends or hundreds of thousands are on the line?
And it is most definetly incumbent for somebody running for senate to lay out a very clear position on how they will act. It is easy to put up a website with positions crafted to differentiate a candidate in hopes of winning an election. It’s called marketing. Cars, soda and pet food all do the same thing and I wouldn’t want a bag of kibble with a well written tag line to be senator.
My main point though on this post was that Franken simply was dishonest in this ad. Nobody I know from any political affiliation “wants to continue the war”. Some want to leave immediately and everybody else would like to get out as quickly as can be done “responsibly”. The differentiator is what they consider “responsible”.
The problem, KH, is that unless you are one of those highlander guys, the parties won’t realize it in your lifetime.
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