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	<title>Comments on: Coleman: Buyouts No Big Deal, Government Could Rake In $7-$14 Trillion</title>
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		<title>By: Franken Working Like a Senator, Coleman Proving He&#8217;s Not Ready For Prime&#160;Time &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/09/coleman-buyouts-no-big-deal-government-could-rake-in-7-14-trillion/comment-page-1/#comment-24694</link>
		<dc:creator>Franken Working Like a Senator, Coleman Proving He&#8217;s Not Ready For Prime&#160;Time &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] story by MPR&#8217;s Mark Zdechlik, &#8220;Coleman defends bailout comments.&#8221; Coleman already proved he has very little understanding of the current financial crisis but I would have thought he would have gotten himself some quick [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] story by MPR&#8217;s Mark Zdechlik, &#8220;Coleman defends bailout comments.&#8221; Coleman already proved he has very little understanding of the current financial crisis but I would have thought he would have gotten himself some quick&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: mjm</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's an essential difference, I think, between Frank's comments and Coleman's.  What Frank is saying is that we will almost inevitably find some good paper amongst all the crap we buy.  We'll be able to make a good deal of money on that -- we will still spend hundreds of billions of dollars, but it won't be the full $700 billion.

What Coleman is saying is that the government will be able to turn a profit.  I suppose that's technically possible, but it's much more likely that I'll win the Nobel Peace Prize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an essential difference, I think, between Frank&#8217;s comments and Coleman&#8217;s.  What Frank is saying is that we will almost inevitably find some good paper amongst all the crap we buy.  We&#8217;ll be able to make a good deal of money on that&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;we will still spend hundreds of billions of dollars, but it won&#8217;t be the full $700 billion.</p>
<p>What Coleman is saying is that the government will be able to turn a profit.  I suppose that&#8217;s technically possible, but it&#8217;s much more likely that I&#8217;ll win the Nobel Peace&nbsp;Prize.</p>
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		<title>By: amuseinc</title>
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		<dc:creator>amuseinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was going to be paid money for garbage, I would be certain that there was no gold or silver in the trash... but with the way Wall Street has handled themselves lately there might be something of value in their discards. I wouldn't count on it but hey stranger things have happened. The vast majority is going to be paper backed with nothing at high commission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was going to be paid money for garbage, I would be certain that there was no gold or silver in the trash&#8230; but with the way Wall Street has handled themselves lately there might be something of value in their discards. I wouldn&#8217;t count on it but hey stranger things have happened. The vast majority is going to be paper backed with nothing at high&nbsp;commission.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/09/coleman-buyouts-no-big-deal-government-could-rake-in-7-14-trillion/comment-page-1/#comment-24667</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  I agree, this is over-the-top.  

I thought the whole justification for the bailout was that it would be catstrophic to do nothing.  That is plausible, if arguable.  I cannot believe that it will be a money-maker, though.  If it's such a wise and profitable investment, why has the private sector not swooped in?

I've heard Amway reps make a more convincing pitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  I agree, this is over-the-top.  </p>
<p>I thought the whole justification for the bailout was that it would be catstrophic to do nothing.  That is plausible, if arguable.  I cannot believe that it will be a money-maker, though.  If it&#8217;s such a wise and profitable investment, why has the private sector not swooped in?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard Amway reps make a more convincing&nbsp;pitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the core of his thinking.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fi-bailout23-2008sep23,0,4842932.story?page=2

"If the bailout works, the bill ultimately paid by taxpayers would be considerably lower than the initial outlay of as much as $700 billion to buy mortgages and mortgage-backed securities, Frank and independent economists said. That's because the government would be paying fire-sale prices and could eventually sell many of the securities, perhaps at a profit depending on how the housing market fares in the years ahead."

His snippet on NPR was a bit more enthusiastic though neither is as far over the top as Coleman's.  But my guess is that given Franks position Coleman isn't so terribly far off what will be the Democrats reasoning line moving forward.  That the bailout is good and the feds are smart enough to make money on a deal where Wall Street failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the core of his thinking.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fi-bailout23-2008sep23,0,4842932.story?page=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fi-bailout23-2008sep23,0,4842932.story?page=2</a></p>
<p>&#8220;If the bailout works, the bill ultimately paid by taxpayers would be considerably lower than the initial outlay of as much as $700 billion to buy mortgages and mortgage-backed securities, Frank and independent economists said. That&#8217;s because the government would be paying fire-sale prices and could eventually sell many of the securities, perhaps at a profit depending on how the housing market fares in the years ahead.&#8221;</p>
<p>His snippet on NPR was a bit more enthusiastic though neither is as far over the top as Coleman&#8217;s.  But my guess is that given Franks position Coleman isn&#8217;t so terribly far off what will be the Democrats reasoning line moving forward.  That the bailout is good and the feds are smart enough to make money on a deal where Wall Street&nbsp;failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was on NPR yesterday evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was on NPR yesterday&nbsp;evening.</p>
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		<title>By: Franken On The Financial&#160;Bailout &#124; MNpublius.com</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/09/coleman-buyouts-no-big-deal-government-could-rake-in-7-14-trillion/comment-page-1/#comment-24659</link>
		<dc:creator>Franken On The Financial&#160;Bailout &#124; MNpublius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Diaries!                 &#171; Coleman: Buyouts No Big Deal, Government Could Rake In $7-$14 Trillion [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Diaries!                 &laquo; Coleman: Buyouts No Big Deal, Government Could Rake In $7-$14 Trillion&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KH--I can't find that line, at least not from Rep. Frank.  Do you have a link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KH&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;I can&#8217;t find that line, at least not from Rep. Frank.  Do you have a&nbsp;link?</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerosene Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I know where he got the idea.  It is the line being used by Barney Frank(D), the current chair of the House Financial Services Committee.  Don't get me wrong, I think both of them are completely full of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I know where he got the idea.  It is the line being used by Barney Frank(D), the current chair of the House Financial Services Committee.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think both of them are completely full of&nbsp;it.</p>
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