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		<title>By: Chris Hutcherson</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/09/the-big-moment-from-tonights-debate/comment-page-2/#comment-25477</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hutcherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the Senate has passed the 700 billon bailout has Obamas destiny been sealed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the Senate has passed the 700 billon bailout has Obamas destiny been&nbsp;sealed?</p>
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		<title>By: The Venerable Bede</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/09/the-big-moment-from-tonights-debate/comment-page-2/#comment-25307</link>
		<dc:creator>The Venerable Bede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If I paid you to think, you could cash your check at the penny arcade."

-George Jefferson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I paid you to think, you could cash your check at the penny arcade.&#8221;</p>
<p>-George&nbsp;Jefferson</p>
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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venerable Bede, what an awesome comment. Unfortunately, things will have to get much much worse for some people to see the light, if ever. There are too many people for the party of "personal responsibility" and "ownership society" to blame, so some may never get the logs out.

Your comment is written like the lyrics to an anthemic song. Very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venerable Bede, what an awesome comment. Unfortunately, things will have to get much much worse for some people to see the light, if ever. There are too many people for the party of &#8220;personal responsibility&#8221; and &#8220;ownership society&#8221; to blame, so some may never get the logs out.</p>
<p>Your comment is written like the lyrics to an anthemic song. Very&nbsp;nice.</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/09/the-big-moment-from-tonights-debate/comment-page-2/#comment-25286</link>
		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

Thomas Jefferson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thomas&nbsp;Jefferson</p>
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		<title>By: amuseinc</title>
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		<dc:creator>amuseinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lojasmo, it reminds me of the comment that the greatest achievement of the Devil was to convince Modern Man that he did not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lojasmo, it reminds me of the comment that the greatest achievement of the Devil was to convince Modern Man that he did not&nbsp;exist.</p>
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		<title>By: lojasmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>lojasmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is:  Most of the conservatives who post here are not wealthy to be immune from the problems their policies have caused for most Americans.  They truly are fools, voting against their own self-interest.  It's actually pretty interesting to watch...in a train-wrecky sort of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is:  Most of the conservatives who post here are not wealthy to be immune from the problems their policies have caused for most Americans.  They truly are fools, voting against their own self-interest.  It&#8217;s actually pretty interesting to watch&#8230;in a train-wrecky sort of&nbsp;way.</p>
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		<title>By: The Venerable Bede</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Venerable Bede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know folks, you can talk to these conservatives who visit here till you’re as blue in the face as you are in your hearts. You can lay out facts, links and footnotes galore, you can insult them, agree with them, ask them to go someplace else but you’ll never change their minds. There’s only one way these righties are going to see the light. The effects of conservative government are going to have to bite these poor souls right in their own butts.

When they lose their healthcare, then they’ll see.
When they lose their job, then they’ll see.
When a healthcare crisis looms and they need to declare bankruptcy, then they’ll see.
When their home goes into foreclosure, then they’ll see.
When the bridge collapses under their commute, then they’ll see.
When their sons or daughters need a same sex civil union, then they’ll see.
When they are disenfranchised, then they’ll see.
When they are sickened by tainted food, then they’ll see.
When they get hurt at work in a way that could have been prevented, then they’ll see.
When their favorite outdoor getaway is polluted, then they’ll see.
When they need to unionize, then they’ll see.
When they have to explain the extinction of a species to their child, then they’ll see.
When it’s their son, beaten and left to hang alone on a fence, then they’ll see.
When their daughters face an unwanted pregnancy, then they’ll see.
When their sons are killed on foreign soil, then they’ll see.

Who am I kidding?...

I fully expect my format here in this comment to be tossed back in my face. A laundry list of items that liberals cherish that will cost too much money. Conservatives don’t see the American Dream as something that if strengthened, can GIVE us all more opportunity. They only seem to see the opportunities to keep anyone else from TAKING what they already have. That’s another thing conservatives never get. It’s just money. We’ll make more…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know folks, you can talk to these conservatives who visit here till you’re as blue in the face as you are in your hearts. You can lay out facts, links and footnotes galore, you can insult them, agree with them, ask them to go someplace else but you’ll never change their minds. There’s only one way these righties are going to see the light. The effects of conservative government are going to have to bite these poor souls right in their own butts.</p>
<p>When they lose their healthcare, then they’ll see.<br />
When they lose their job, then they’ll see.<br />
When a healthcare crisis looms and they need to declare bankruptcy, then they’ll see.<br />
When their home goes into foreclosure, then they’ll see.<br />
When the bridge collapses under their commute, then they’ll see.<br />
When their sons or daughters need a same sex civil union, then they’ll see.<br />
When they are disenfranchised, then they’ll see.<br />
When they are sickened by tainted food, then they’ll see.<br />
When they get hurt at work in a way that could have been prevented, then they’ll see.<br />
When their favorite outdoor getaway is polluted, then they’ll see.<br />
When they need to unionize, then they’ll see.<br />
When they have to explain the extinction of a species to their child, then they’ll see.<br />
When it’s their son, beaten and left to hang alone on a fence, then they’ll see.<br />
When their daughters face an unwanted pregnancy, then they’ll see.<br />
When their sons are killed on foreign soil, then they’ll see.</p>
<p>Who am I kidding?&#8230;</p>
<p>I fully expect my format here in this comment to be tossed back in my face. A laundry list of items that liberals cherish that will cost too much money. Conservatives don’t see the American Dream as something that if strengthened, can GIVE us all more opportunity. They only seem to see the opportunities to keep anyone else from TAKING what they already have. That’s another thing conservatives never get. It’s just money. We’ll make&nbsp;more…</p>
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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Truth

You sound like a very typical troll.

Explain what track record of success the Republican party has had that validates your partisan, spin room arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth</p>
<p>You sound like a very typical troll.</p>
<p>Explain what track record of success the Republican party has had that validates your partisan, spin room&nbsp;arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But lojasmo, I would argue that the crux of the issue here isn't who takes out the mortgage, but rather if the mortgage is paid back.  And the material link here is that a subprime loan is statistically 10 times more likely to go into foreclosure than a non-subprime loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But lojasmo, I would argue that the crux of the issue here isn&#8217;t who takes out the mortgage, but rather if the mortgage is paid back.  And the material link here is that a subprime loan is statistically 10 times more likely to go into foreclosure than a non-subprime&nbsp;loan.</p>
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		<title>By: lojasmo</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2008/09/the-big-moment-from-tonights-debate/comment-page-2/#comment-25210</link>
		<dc:creator>lojasmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Truth:

As noted upthread, only 5% of mortgages were sub-prime, while 42% were non-homestead (second properties)  This is not the fault of the poor, but rather speculating and over-reaching upper middle class (top quintile earners) getting in over their heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth:</p>
<p>As noted upthread, only 5% of mortgages were sub-prime, while 42% were non-homestead (second properties)  This is not the fault of the poor, but rather speculating and over-reaching upper middle class (top quintile earners) getting in over their&nbsp;heads.</p>
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