Comments on: GOP Strategists Admit: Benefits To Keeping Senate Seat Vacant http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:49:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: katzy http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32383 katzy Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:38:40 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32383 thanks, nitro. i guess what i was trying to say is that al's humor is ABOUT that childish political gamesmanship, using it in a way to show the childishness of it, as well as the dishonesty, etc. involved. his "partisanship" is very tongue-in-cheek, and people don't realize that. looks like yesterday's rulings were good. hopefully the people of mn will soon get to see how great a senator al's going to be. thanks, nitro. i guess what i was trying to say is that al’s humor is ABOUT that childish political gamesmanship, using it in a way to show the childishness of it, as well as the dishonesty, etc. involved. his “partisanship” is very tongue-in-cheek, and people don’t realize that.

looks like yesterday’s rulings were good. hopefully the people of mn will soon get to see how great a senator al’s going to be.

]]> By: Pete http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32368 Pete Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:45:00 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32368 amuseinc, thanks. I stand corrected. On the subject of god speaking to him, I heard he claimed recently that god told him that he wants him to be senator. All this an schizophrenia too? amuseinc, thanks. I stand corrected. On the subject of god speaking to him, I heard he claimed recently that god told him that he wants him to be senator.

All this an schizophrenia too?

]]> By: Anonymous http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32367 Anonymous Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:35:28 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32367 amuseinc, thanks. I stand corrected. On the subject of god speaking to him, I heard he claimed recently that god told him that he wants him to be senator. All this an schizophrenia too? amuseinc, thanks. I stand corrected. On the subject of god speaking to him, I heard he claimed recently that god told him that he wants him to be senator.

All this an schizophrenia too?

]]> By: Nitro http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32364 Nitro Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:04:12 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32364 katzy, <i> "is anyone else frustrated with this portrayal of franken as extremely partisan? </i> Yes it is quite frustrating, speaking as someone familiar with the Oy Yoy Yoy Show. Part of why I enjoyed Al Franken was his knowledge of issues, and the effort he personally took to get the information regarding the issues of the day. American politics have become such a political theatre, with manufactured outrage addicts frothing at the mouth every day asking for more. Al, or any Liberal nationwide are unfortunately swept up in this childish political gamesmanship. There are some who believe no respect should be given to anyone who disagrees with them on issues, and that the only issue that really matters is winning elections, such as some of the people who disagree with Al Franken. The truth about his show, then, becomes a subjective matter of opinion, in the minds of these people. Reality becomes irrelevant. That being said I'm not worried about Al. Win or lose, he'll be just fine. Either way, we haven't seen the last of Al Franken. He gives righties the vapors. katzy,

“is anyone else frustrated with this portrayal of franken as extremely partisan?

Yes it is quite frustrating, speaking as someone familiar with the Oy Yoy Yoy Show. Part of why I enjoyed Al Franken was his knowledge of issues, and the effort he personally took to get the information regarding the issues of the day.

American politics have become such a political theatre, with manufactured outrage addicts frothing at the mouth every day asking for more. Al, or any Liberal nationwide are unfortunately swept up in this childish political gamesmanship.

There are some who believe no respect should be given to anyone who disagrees with them on issues, and that the only issue that really matters is winning elections, such as some of the people who disagree with Al Franken.

The truth about his show, then, becomes a subjective matter of opinion, in the minds of these people. Reality becomes irrelevant.

That being said I’m not worried about Al. Win or lose, he’ll be just fine. Either way, we haven’t seen the last of Al Franken. He gives righties the vapors.

]]> By: katzy http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32363 katzy Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:50:20 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32363 i really disagree, dan. i listened to the show quite a bit. anything i ever heard the coleman campaign say was objectionable about it was another example of them completely misunderstanding (and i think purposely so) what was being said. so i'm curious what you found so objectionable, and exactly how much you listened, and have read of his books. is anyone else frustrated with this portrayal of franken as extremely partisan? not as a misrepresentation of his politics, which i've seen discussed, but his satire? just curious. i really disagree, dan. i listened to the show quite a bit. anything i ever heard the coleman campaign say was objectionable about it was another example of them completely misunderstanding (and i think purposely so) what was being said. so i’m curious what you found so objectionable, and exactly how much you listened, and have read of his books.

is anyone else frustrated with this portrayal of franken as extremely partisan? not as a misrepresentation of his politics, which i’ve seen discussed, but his satire? just curious.

]]> By: Nitro http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32362 Nitro Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:42:31 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32362 DantheMan, <i> "Franken’s radio show was as in the gutter as the stuff Limbaugh does." </i> Prove it. DantheMan,

“Franken’s radio show was as in the gutter as the stuff Limbaugh does.”

Prove it.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32361 DantheMan Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:34:04 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32361 Franken's radio show was as in the gutter as the stuff Limbaugh does. And if there is a leader of the GOP, it is a dead Ronald Reagan. Republicans have problems alright -- the best embodiment of what they believe is a man who has been deceased for four years. But I'm not too worried about Limbaugh being a kingmaker. Maybe in rural Alabama people listen to him, but the average Republican views him as just another talking head. Franken’s radio show was as in the gutter as the stuff Limbaugh does.

And if there is a leader of the GOP, it is a dead Ronald Reagan. Republicans have problems alright — the best embodiment of what they believe is a man who has been deceased for four years. But I’m not too worried about Limbaugh being a kingmaker. Maybe in rural Alabama people listen to him, but the average Republican views him as just another talking head.

]]> By: katzy http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32360 katzy Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:30:38 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32360 it's interesting to hear people equate al franken with rush limbaugh, when in fact he is really the opposite of what they do. the problem with satire, it seems, is that it's really easy to misinterpret. the title and content of al's first book on politics, rush limbaugh is a big fat idiot, is not only meant to criticize rush, but also his methods. al's humor isn't partisan, though it's easy to someone to misinterpret it (purposely or otherwise) as such. in fact, it's anti-partisan. i'm surprised more people don't bring that up here on publius. it’s interesting to hear people equate al franken with rush limbaugh, when in fact he is really the opposite of what they do. the problem with satire, it seems, is that it’s really easy to misinterpret. the title and content of al’s first book on politics, rush limbaugh is a big fat idiot, is not only meant to criticize rush, but also his methods.

al’s humor isn’t partisan, though it’s easy to someone to misinterpret it (purposely or otherwise) as such. in fact, it’s anti-partisan. i’m surprised more people don’t bring that up here on publius.

]]> By: amuseinc http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32359 amuseinc Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:41:11 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32359 Dan I'm not ridiculing Rush Limbaugh. He is a king-maker and can singlehandedly destroy any Republican politicians career with a quip. He has literally millions of angry white men ready at a moments notice to harass any Republican back into lockstep. The fact that the Republican leader is a fat, drug addicted man with a taste for sex vacations is not ridicule. Rush Limbaugh is the most powerful Republican in America and finally Republicans are admitting it. I can not think of a single Republican politician who could go toe-to-toe with Rush and win a political battle. In a face down with Mitch McConnell who would you bet on? Certainly the present ideological source of the Republican Party is spewing some four hours a day, five days a week on talk radio supported by hemorrhoid creams and shady insurance companies. His leadership position is understood and accepted across America. The only thing I am bringing up is that the party of Eisenhower and Lincoln is now in his semen-smeared hands. His occupation as a Radio talk-show host has nothing to do with anything as far as I am concerned. The leader of my party is President Obama. I'm happy with my leader and I hope you are happy with yours. Facts is facts, not ridicule. Dan I’m not ridiculing Rush Limbaugh. He is a king-maker and can singlehandedly destroy any Republican politicians career with a quip. He has literally millions of angry white men ready at a moments notice to harass any Republican back into lockstep. The fact that the Republican leader is a fat, drug addicted man with a taste for sex vacations is not ridicule.

Rush Limbaugh is the most powerful Republican in America and finally Republicans are admitting it. I can not think of a single Republican politician who could go toe-to-toe with Rush and win a political battle. In a face down with Mitch McConnell who would you bet on? Certainly the present ideological source of the Republican Party is spewing some four hours a day, five days a week on talk radio supported by hemorrhoid creams and shady insurance companies. His leadership position is understood and accepted across America.

The only thing I am bringing up is that the party of Eisenhower and Lincoln is now in his semen-smeared hands. His occupation as a Radio talk-show host has nothing to do with anything as far as I am concerned. The leader of my party is President Obama. I’m happy with my leader and I hope you are happy with yours. Facts is facts, not ridicule.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2009/02/gop-strategists-admit-benefits-to-keeping-senate-seat-vacant/#comment-32358 DantheMan Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:00:15 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=4568#comment-32358 Why do you keep poking fun at Rush Limbaugh and his work? To ridicule Limbaugh's profession is to ridicule Franken's. They have each added the same amount and style of discourse and civility to the political debate in the past decade. Why do you keep poking fun at Rush Limbaugh and his work? To ridicule Limbaugh’s profession is to ridicule Franken’s. They have each added the same amount and style of discourse and civility to the political debate in the past decade.

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