Unsurprising

by Zack Stephenson | 56 Comments

Add this to the President’s list of talents:

Messina, who is single, has also discovered a side benefit to working for the president. When he brought a date to a gala at Ford’s Theatre this month, Obama stopped by to chat.

“It turns out the president is a really good wingman,” Messina said. Obama, he said, “stopped by and said, ‘Messina, you look pretty good when you clean up.’ ”

February 21, 2009, 10:02 am | Category: Misc. Non-Political | Tags: .

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  • Really?
    February 21, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Per his own supporters, Obama’s Talents/qualifications to be President of the United States

    1) Good Wingman (per Mr. Messina)
    2) Clean (per VP Joe)
    3) Articulate (per VP Joe)
    4) Good-Looking (Per VP Joe)
    5) Magic (LA Times)

    Never ran a business
    Never created a job
    Never responsbile for a P&L
    Never Hired, Fired, Managed
    Never introduced Federal Legislation of any importance
    Voted Present on hard issues

  • Scott
    February 21, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Still your president (per the American people).

  • amuseinc
    February 21, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Now lets take a little look at the Republican Party leadership. The Republican party is now effectively run by a pill-popping, whore-buying racist fatty, a fact-challenged snowbilly and a guy who is talking the “hip-hop,” all of whom scare the scare the handful of right-leaners with brains.

    It is such great fun to watch the urbane, humane, and talented President of the United States cause Republicans to gnaw their livers. Not so much fun to watch them go out of their way to obstruct needed legislation and wish for the downfall of the United States.

  • Alec
    February 21, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Really?
    Thanks for making the perfect list of people not to pick for president!! George Bush did everything that you listed as Obama having never done. Now we now for sure that those things should be disqualifiers. You summed up the disqualifiers nicely:

    These people should not be President:

    Anyone who has run a business (Bush ran a failed oil company and the Texas Rangers into the ground)

    Created Jobs (Yep, Bush did this, at the lowest rate of any President since the great depression, and, oh yeah, they were mostly low wage-low benefit)

    Never hired, fired, managed (Yeppers, Bush sure did this too. Loyalty over competence was the Republican motto though, so he hired losers and managed them poorly)

    Never introduced Federal Legislation (Yeppers, good old Bushie again)

    Voted present on hard issues (tangential, but I would say, “Issued illegal signing statements on tough legislation saying he was above the law)

    Good list Really? Our “First CEO in the White House” almost destroyed this country. Good work if you can get it.

    Take care,
     Alec

  • Nitro
    February 21, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Really?’s talents/qualifications to be a credible blogger.

    None.

  • Really?
    February 21, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Nitro,

    I am not a blogger. I am a commetor.

    Zack, Aaron, et al are bloggers.

    You don’t let facts get in your way, do you Nitro. Or are you just ignorant of the difference?

    Alec,

    Obama has hired or tried to hire at least four people with serious tax issues. How’s that for management competence? He has also hired lobbyists after he said he would not. That would be called lying or backtracking, take your pick.

    Bush created jobs. Obama has not, and this ridiculous spendulus will create work, not long term wealth creating jobs. There is a difference, but I do not believe that you are capable of understanding the difference.

    Bush did not introduce Federal Legislation before his Presidency becuase he was not a Senator, as was Obama. You slay me. LOL

    Bush at least made an attempt to create wealth by taking risks with his money, unlike Obama, who is taking other peoples wealth to give to people whose choices put them in the postion thery are in (drugs, pregnancies, dropouts).

    You know, you are quite hilarious in comparing ObamaChimpy’s lack of exoerience to Prez McChimpy’s (see, if yliberals call one prez a chimp, you can call them all a chimp). I guess if you set the bar so low in your mind then you won’t be dissappointed when he becomes known to be such a miserable, abject failure.

  • Nitro
    February 21, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Really?

    “Bush created jobs. Obama has not, and this ridiculous spendulus will create work, not long term wealth creating jobs. There is a difference, but I do not believe that you are capable of understanding the difference.”

    Your ideology is a proven failure, Really?. Republican bloggers such as yourself, have not proven why their words have any value. They are the words of failed, divisive policy decisions, decisions you and your fellow Republicans made, stood behind, and hatefully used as a wedge against people you didn’t like.

    The Republican brand has been severely damaged by the lack of credibility shown by people such as yourself, poll after poll shows that damage is real. Republican negatives are indeed very very high.

    It is laughable that you predict Obama will fail, as YOU and your fellow right wing outrage addicts have failed America terribly, and everyone knows it.

    The most incredible thing about your comments is that Obama has been in office for a Month. Bush left our country in RUINS, and you preach to Liberals with the same old tired familiar rhetoric that ruined us.

    As your disconnect from reality grows, Really?, you drown your own in the bathtub, self minimizing yourselves.

    “Bush at least made an attempt to create wealth by taking risks with his money” ,/i>

    That was HIS money? I though it was the taxpayers money. Disconnect from reality much, Really?

    “(see, if yliberals call one prez a chimp, you can call them all a chimp).”

    I don’t recall Liberals calling for Bush to be shot, unlike the freakishly ugly cartoon you reference.

    Really?, I ask you, Really?, are you pretending to be a rightie?… because you act like someone purposefully acting like a fool to discredit righties.

  • Zach
    February 21, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Why anyone would bother responding to a troll’s bait is beyond me, though I suppose I am doing the same thing. Really’s ideas are best represented by his parties leaders. Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Jon Cornyn, George Will, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Phil Gramm, Lindsey Graham, Bobby Jindal, Micheal Steele, Ronald Reagan, Norm Coleman, Michelle Bachmann. Now there is a list of winners. I couldn’t name a true success from the whole lot of them and their ideas. Let alone the fact that their ideology manifested in politics over the last 8 years, ehh maybe 30?, has been an unmitigated, unending failure at all levels, and not to forget that their belief in said failed ideology has not wavered, even in the face of complete and utter disaster. The disaster Obama has to try and clean up. It is Republican owned. I would consider the fact that people of such low moral caliber still exist, and proudly, is the biggest insult against them that no one here needs to say out loud. Just allow him to drop his worthless bait, and leave him alone in his irrelevance. The more they spout their tired failures as successes, the more irrelevant they become, the more fun and rewarding 2010 and 12 will be for people who actually care about solving the problems we face. Really is doing our job for us! Cheers progressives! That being said, what a great first month!

  • lojasmo
    February 21, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    “commetor” is not a word.

    Really? is an incorrigible douche.

  • Really?
    February 21, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Nitro,

    I see once again that you did not dsipute any of my facts and/or assertations, except when you mistated them.

    Bush risked his money as an oilman and owner of the Rangers. ObamaRama has not made one contribution to growing wealth in this country - only confiscating it and givng it to others.

    I am not referencing a cartoon about dead chimps (although the non-apology was a classic). I am just stating that since libs called Bush a Chimp, you should have no problem calling Obama one. The Obamachimpy? Chimpbama? OChimpy? The Chimpinator? You choose, since you guys did so well with McChimpy.

    And as for Libs not wanting Bush shot? Does DailyKos and HuffPo ring a bell, there Nitro? Hitting the bong with Michael Phelps again, are you?

    Oh, and since you didn’t get it the first time

    “Republican bloggers such as yourself”

    I am a conservative commentor, not a blogger. You must have gone to guv’mint school.

    Pontification, Obfuscation, Fool hardiness and Denial, thy name is NITRO.

  • the seal
    February 21, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    We should give our friend Really? a break. It sucks being irrelevant. Knowing deep down that political impotence is likely going to go on for years, perhaps even decades, is deeply demoralizing. Denial is giving way to anger so our grief struck friend is at least beginning his/her way down that difficult road to acceptance.
    Best wishes dealing with your loss Really?

  • Really?
    February 21, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    Baby Seal,

    Get a new schtick - Nitro owns the “irrelevant” line of potification.

  • the seal
    February 22, 2009 at 12:07 am

    We’re liberals, we know how to share.

    Thats Mr Seal to you, Really!

  • JT
    February 22, 2009 at 12:29 am

    I agree…you liberals are really good at “sharing” other people’s hard earned money.

  • Really?
    February 22, 2009 at 8:55 am

    That’s Really? to you seal.

    Actually JT - they don’t share it with me, since I have never seen a dime of welfare money, Medicaid, CHIP, Foodstamps, Abortion funding, SSI, etc.

    Maybe I should make some poor personal choices so that I can get me some!

  • Alec
    February 22, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Really?
    Bush took risks with Daddy’s wealth and the wealth of their Saudi benefactors. You seriously are demented.
    Take care,
     Alec

  • Alec
    February 22, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Real?/JT,
    Republicans are the biggest redistributors of wealth of all time. through de-regulation and anti-worker policies, they have redistributed all the wealth to the top 1%. The wealth gap is the largest it has been since 1928, coincidentally the year before the last collapse of the economy. Capitalism needs a small poor class, a large middle class, and a small wealthy class to work. The conservatives have raped the middle class of its wealth. When all of the income goes to the top 1%, there is nothing for the middle class to spend into the economy. Supply side redistribution has failed, and failed miserably. Do you honesty believe that someone who makes their earings off of dividends should pay less in taxes than someone who actually works for a living? We just want a fair tax policy like we had from the 30’s-70’s.

  • Richard
    February 22, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Don’t forget Alec, after he took Daddy’s money, and the money of the family Saud, then failed miserably, he profited. He walked away, or staggered away, and left a mess for others to clean up. Sounds like a pattern of behavior for the guy. The GOP’ers that sometimes comment here are, by and large, hoping for the failure of Obama and his policies. This will leave the country in historically unprecedented dire straits. How is that unpatriotic? Why is it GOP’ers like to wrap themselves in the flag, in order to quell dissent for an illegal and immoral war, but when it comes time for actual sacrifice to be given, they run for the hills?

  • The Venerable Bede
    February 22, 2009 at 9:59 am

    “Commentator”

    Here’s a new schtick: Republican de-evolution. C’mon back when you’ve rejoined the human race Really?

  • TwoPuttTommy
    February 22, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Really? posted: “Bush risked his money as an oilman and owner of the Rangers.”

    ROFLMAO!!!

    And in another urban legend from the Drug Limpstick world, Boy Blunder’s brother Neil was a successful banker, too.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 10:52 am

    Really? is chock full of the same old tired, worn out talking points we’ve allheard over and over and over again.

    Those specific talking points have led us to where we are now.

    He decides in his manufactured outrage driven mind who deserves help and who doesn’t, broad brushing people he doesn’t like into ugly caricatures, as most Republicans do.

    Really? is being driven even further to the fringe of society with his newfound irrelevance, as he shows here.

    But what Really? will never answer is this:

    If America is in a financial crisis that we ALL have to share, how did we get there?

    Where did the money go?

    Where did Americas prosperity GO, Really?

    Tell us please. Teach us, since we are so stupid in your eyes.

    The irony is, while accusing Liberals of being stupid and worthless, is is in fact Really? who is exactly that. Reality sucks, doesn’t it, Really?.

  • Dan
    February 22, 2009 at 11:37 am

    I thought the Republicans would be done with the delinquent taxes issue after Sarah Palin got busted not paying her taxes. You know, since it wasn’t just an appointment, but the actual Republican vice-presidential nominee. Not so much, I guess.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Really?

    “And as for Libs not wanting Bush shot? Does DailyKos and HuffPo ring a bell, there Nitro? Hitting the bong with Michael Phelps again, are you?”

    Prove it.

  • Really?
    February 22, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Dan,

    Get a grip. The State JUST decided that she owed the taxes. As in last week. She did not avoid them. She will probably fight it. Unlike Getihtner who knew he owed them, took the money for them, kept it, and then paid several years later what was only due under the statute of limitations. One of them id not pay her cleaning/nanny taxes. Comes on, people were getting busted for that 20 years ago. Just shows that she never thought she would be nominated and felt she was above the law.

    I like how you think that becuase one Republican did it than it must be ok. Do you really look towards Republicans to justify your own existence?

    Bede - “Commenter” is what I meant, not commentator.

    Com”ment`er\, n. One who makes or writes comments; a commentator; an annotator.

    It is a word - I misspelled it. Commentator is usually used for the pros on TV, Radio, etc., not us guys doing it for fun and the joy of seeing libs heads explode when challenged with facts , logic, and reason.

    Nitro,

    They take them down when they are brought to light and then deny and blame others for the posts. They even close the commets section when something bad happens to a Republican to keep their posters from looking like the hateful little bigots they are. If you don’t believe it happens, you are the one who is irrelevant.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Really?,

    “And as for Libs not wanting Bush shot? Does DailyKos and HuffPo ring a bell, there Nitro? Hitting the bong with Michael Phelps again, are you?”

    So they want Bush shot?

    Explain.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Really?

    “I am not a blogger. I am a commetor. Zack, Aaron, et al are bloggers.

    You don’t let facts get in your way, do you Nitro. Or are you just ignorant of the difference?”

    “I am a conservative commentor, not a blogger. You must have gone to guv’mint school.

    Pontification, Obfuscation, Fool hardiness and Denial, thy name is NITRO.”

    blog·ger n. One who write entries in, adds material to, or maintains a weblog.

    So your manufactured outrage addicted comments are not entries then?

    Explain.

    FYI: You’re doing the work of drowning Republicans in the bathtub for me.

    Thank you.

  • Dan
    February 22, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    “Get a grip. The State JUST decided that she owed the taxes. As in last week. She did not avoid them.”

    Oh, I see. I guess that makes it all ok then. Never mind. LMFAO.

    Really, I have to say that your comment absolutely made my day. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. You are a piece of work.

    I do agree with your statement that Palin thought she was above the law. The irony of all this that the most dishonest and corrupt politician in America is in Alaksa, not Washington. And a lot of Republicans are so incredibly stupid that they think Palin is the answer to their problems. That is just awesome.

  • DantheMan
    February 22, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Sarah Palin should pay taxes. Tim Geithner should pay taxes. Tom Daschle should pay taxes. James Traficant should have paid his taxes.

    Let’s not have a double-standard. Truth-be-told, Palin’s issues regarding taking per-diems and having the STate of Alaska fund her family travel bothered me back in the fall.

    GOP needs to move past the Sarah Palins of the world if they will have a shot in 2012. Given the emergency spending bill and its vagueness and long-term cost, they have an opening if they put up a bright, articulate, and (dare I say) socially moderate candidate.

  • Dan
    February 22, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    “Sarah Palin should pay taxes. Tim Geithner should pay taxes. Tom Daschle should pay taxes. James Traficant should have paid his taxes.

    Let’s not have a double-standard.”

    Amen.

  • the seal
    February 22, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    “GOP needs to move past the Sarah Palins of the world if they will have a shot in 2012. Given the emergency spending bill and its vagueness and long-term cost, they have an opening if they put up a bright, articulate, and (dare I say) socially moderate candidate.”

    As a partisan democrat, I can live with the republican party self destructing.

    As an American, I wish bright, articulate, moderate republicans would wrestle control away from those who seem hell bent on driving over the cliff. But that would be the responsibility of bright, articulate, moderate republicans. Feeling up to the task?

  • Richard
    February 22, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    GOP needs to move past the Sarah Palins

    I couldn’t disagree more. Sarah Palin personifies more then any other GOP’er character the fantasy of privilege and position. She is undoubtedly, the most logical choice for leadership in the party. If I could get that inconvenient gag reflex under control, I would be setting up a Palin in 2012 campaign site. Of course her most logical running mate would be Michele Bachmann.

  • Richard
    February 22, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    bright, articulate, and (dare I say) socially moderate candidate

    Name one GOP’er that meets even one, of those criterion.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Dan,

    “And a lot of Republicans are so incredibly stupid that they think Palin is the answer to their problems.”

    Usually they are the ones who claim to be the smartest men in the room.

  • DantheMan
    February 22, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    “Sarah Palin personifies more then any other GOP’er character the fantasy of privilege and position. ”

    ??? Sarah Palin graduated from the U of Idaho after going through a local public school system. She then began knocking down a whopping $15K a year as a newscaster, and moved to Alaska with her blue-collar hubby.

    Contrast that with President Obama, who went to the finest private school in Hawaii before spending time with the cultural elites at Columbia and Harvard, before embarking on his memoirs.

    Obama has a hell of a lot more intellect than Palin, and he is probably the more able politican of the two. But if one of them is the product of privilege, I hate to tell you it wouldn’t be Palin.

  • DantheMan
    February 22, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    “bright, articulate, and (dare I say) socially moderate candidate

    Name one GOP’er that meets even one, of those criterion.”

    Chuck Hagel, Susan Collins, Paul Ryan, Judd Gregg, Mel Martinez, JC Watts, John McHugh, Bobby Jindal…….

    Don’t worry, Richard, they’re there.

  • Really?
    February 22, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    DtM,

    Michael Phelps left his bong over at Richard’s Mother’s Basement.

    Explains Richard’s last post.

  • Dan
    February 22, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Bobby Jindal? The guy who does exorcisms? Sorry, but Jindal is more of a intolerant religious nut than the very worst of the Falwells and Robertsons. The guy is an absolute freakshow. If you think that nutbag is the moderate future of the Republican party, you are in worse trouble than I thought.

  • Really?
    February 22, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Knowing not paying taxes is different than having a disagrement over the applicable law.

    Geithner - no question. He didn’t just not pay, one can argue that he STOLE it. Criminal.
    Daschle - You don’t get a car and Chauffer for free. Moron.
    The Efficiency Improvement woman - PAY THE NANNY TAXES FOR GOD’S SAKE!!! Privledged Idiot.
    ahm Emmanuel - ROTFLMAO - Lived for Free for 5 years……and the husband of his friend got around $500K of Dem contacts? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Just another crooked Chicago Pol.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    DantheMan,

    Why would Richard have to worry?

    Aren’t “moderate Republicans” unpopular with the right wing outrage addicted base?

    “Contrast that with President Obama, who went to the finest private school in Hawaii before spending time with the cultural elites at Columbia and Harvard, before embarking on his memoirs.”

    Are you suggesting Barack Obama did not work hard to achieve what he did?

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Wow Really?

    Unhinge much?

    Your hatred of people you disagree with on issues really shows.

    Thank you for representing Minnesota Republican bloggers perfectly.

    Great Job!

    :)

  • Dan
    February 22, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Oh my god, Really? actually believes his own bullshit about Sarah Palin! That is absolutely priceless. Keep it up, buddy! It was just an honest disagreement! Democrats don’t pay taxes, while Republicans just have disagreements over the applicable law. Its perfect!

  • Richard
    February 22, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Chuck Hagel, Susan Collins, Paul Ryan, Judd Gregg, Mel Martinez, JC Watts, John McHugh, Bobby Jindal…

    They’re not GOP’ers, they’re RINO’s!! RINO’s I tell you. Traitorous, turncoat, unpatriotic, very very very unRay-Gun, who’ll never never ever have any influence in the party. No, DtM, you’re stuck with Palin. She’s the one your party is pinning it’s hopes to. Like an alcoholic or a drug addict the Republican will have to hit rock bottom before it will be able to admit to itself that it has a problem. The problem is, of course, the Republican party is addicted to a failed philosophy of greed and avarice.

  • Zach
    February 22, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    DTM and Really voted for Sarah Palin to solve the mess we are in. Thus the irrelevance. Richard, Amen. 2010 is going to be awesome.

  • Zach
    February 22, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    ps Driftglass is fantastic today.

  • DantheMan
    February 22, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    If I’m stuck with Palin in 2012, then I’m screwed. Doesn’t make me a Democrat.

    You know, it wasn’t that long ago that you all put a moderate into office. Remember slick Willy? He was the last President to have the balls to actually work with the other party. The result is that we actually had a balanced budget for a few years.

    I don’t care if it is GOP President who has the courage to reach to the left, or a Democratic Prez who has the mojo to reach to the right. Whoever it is, I’ll sign up.

    Hell, maybe Obama will show that he can. If he creates a track record of being able to work in a way that suits the true plurality of the country — you know, the moderates — he’ll gain a fan in me. Although it will probably really piss Richard and Nitro off.

    So be it. For the good of the nation.

  • TwoPuttTommy
    February 22, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    “…or a Democratic Prez who has the mojo to reach to the right. Whoever it is, I’ll sign up. Hell, maybe Obama will show that he can.”

    He kept Gates on; he nominated GOPers LaHood and Gregg.

    What more do you want?

  • DantheMan
    February 22, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    That is a start. I agree, TPT.

    The proof will be in the pudding (pudding = policy).

    I wish for the best, truly.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    DantheMan,

    “ he’ll gain a fan in me. Although it will probably really piss Richard and Nitro off.”

    Speak for yourself, DantheMan. You don’t know me. I was raised Conservative, and Clinton almost made me one again because of his personal behavior.

    I would love it if we all tried to find common ground. Who’s party is setting the table for more divisiveness, DantheMan? There’s nothing wrong with fiscal responsibility. That is in fact why Bush was so upsetting for me, his behavior coupled with the fact that all these Conservatives defended everything he did and treated people who disagreed like shit pretty much spelled the end of my embrace of Conservatives and their ideas. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t gladly move America forward with the best of both ideologys, the ideas that actually work.

    Don’t paint me into your twisted caricatures.

  • DantheMan
    February 22, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Nitro -

    While many of your posts would suggest to me that you don’t have as open of a mind as what you just eluded to, I am wrong to judge and perhaps should give you more credit. My apologies.

  • Nitro
    February 22, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Thanks DantheMan.

    Although we may have our differences, realize if the outcome matched the rhetoric I would not be so dead-set against those 2003 era Conservative ideas that were legislated and allowed to prosper. Those ideas have, for the moment, ruined us. There’s not a city in America that has been untouched by right wing ideological failure. I believe America is not going to forget what happened, and is smarter than many in the right-wing base think.

    It just sickens me to hear that same rhetoric still being sold today. Doing that seems rather disingenuous, considering it’s collapse and failure.

    Perhaps, DantheMan, the Republicans ideological failure was because of its inability to see any issue as more nuanced than a black and white divisive wedge issue. Common ground is nuanced. It requires both sides to “give a little”. For common ground to work, the MSM needs to present these issues in a manner that promotes finding that common ground. Right now I don’t see anyone doing that.

    I think Barack Obama would agree with me on that.

  • lojasmo
    February 23, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    DtM: I know you didn’t specifically mention me with Richard and Nitro, but I’ll be pleased as punch if Obama can govern in a way that pleases centrists and moderate republicans, as he promised to do in his campaign. Certainly he’s made a good start by appointing more republicans to his cabinet than any other democrat in the last eighty years, and by [i]attempting[/i] to involve republicans in the stimulus bill.

    Then again, I’ll be fine if the republican caucus further poisons their own well by continuing to be obstructionist jackasses regardless of Obama’s attempt at bipartisan reform.

  • loonwalk
    February 23, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Arne Carlson is no longer a Republican. That tells us something, don’tcha think?

  • DantheMan
    February 23, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    I don’t like the divisiveness of the GOP in the past 10 years. I think it has been very negative overall. But frankly, the Democrats responded with about the same level of maturity.

    I actually don’t consider myself partisan. I’ve never stepped foot in a party convention or caucus, and I’d say that at least 25% of the votes in my life have been cast for non-republicans. Maybe 35%.

    Obama could be the guy to break everyone out of the cycle. I personally think McCain would have been a giant leap forward on this front as well. But Obama won, and now it is up to him.

    Tomorrow night will be a huge, huge speech for me. Does Obama spend his primetime talking about how bad Bush and the GOP screwed up and how he is the poor guy who has to come in and clean up, but give him lots of time because it won’t be easy? Or does he talk about how he is going to be a leader, have oversight on this $800 billion spending, etc.

  • Richard
    February 23, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    DtM, if Obama governs from the center, that’ll be fine with me. If the GOP’ers keep working for Obama’s failure, that’ll be cause for angry posts. If partisan GOP’ers from Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi refuse Federal dollars to score political points in 2010, it’ll be at the expense of their constituents. You’d better start calling ‘em like they is. DtM, your party and your political philosophy are utter and complete failures. Your party and your philosphy has cost people their livelihoods and homes. Admit it and quit looking for something to salvage. The republican party is in ruins, to the detriment of the country, because of apologists like yourself who put short term advantage over long term prosperity for everyone. I’m not pissed because of anything republican or democratic, I’m pissed because my country and my future and my children’s future has been put at extreme risk because of some greed mongers who sold a fraudulent bill of goods to a bunch of wannabe big shots. Thanks.

  • DantheMan
    February 23, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Richard, it takes all kinds to form a nation. The irony here is that your radical views balance out those very ones that you despise.

    The productive truth lies somewhere in the middle.

    Thanks for your comment.

  • Holly Cairns
    February 24, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Richard said: The republican party is in ruins, to the detriment of the country, because of apologists like yourself who put short term advantage over long term prosperity for everyone.

    That is really profound. That’s exactly what I think is the center of it all. Democrats opt for paying now while Republicans opt for what turns out to be paying much more, later.

    No niceties about it, that’s what deregulation and lack of oversight get you. The bootstraps idea makes me think of Republican ideology, but really there are hardworking individuals who need a break nowadays.

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