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	<title>Comments on: Poll: Minnesotans Divided on Re-Vote</title>
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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-33025</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DantheMan,

So what are you doing to try to change the Republican party? How many people within your party see things the way you do, Danthe&quot;Man&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DantheMan,</p>
<p>So what are you doing to try to change the Republican party? How many people within your party see things the way you do,&nbsp;Danthe&#8221;Man&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-33024</link>
		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just said that I didn&#039;t like the way the 2000 fiasco ended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just said that I didn&#8217;t like the way the 2000 fiasco&nbsp;ended.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitro</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-33022</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DantheMan

&lt;i&gt; &quot;But this is six long years of wondering if the person we sent to the Senate was any more valid of a winner than had we flipped a coin.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Somehow, Republicans were able to see past this &quot;wonder&quot; when Bush won in 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DantheMan</p>
<p><i> &#8220;But this is six long years of wondering if the person we sent to the Senate was any more valid of a winner than had we flipped a coin.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Somehow, Republicans were able to see past this &#8220;wonder&#8221; when Bush won in&nbsp;2000.</p>
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		<title>By: CMan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-33018</link>
		<dc:creator>CMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But we don’t know that Franken won. We don’t know that Coleman won.&quot;

How could anyone be surprised that both sides are dug in for the long haul with the fillibuster proof margin in the Senate hanging by a thread? A re-vote would decide it once and for all. Do you think either side of a losing verdict might appeal to a federal level? In hind sight, the decision to hold the recount all accross the state (a money saving move), using different criteria has put this in the mess it is. Neither side will believe justice has been served with the jugdes decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But we don’t know that Franken won. We don’t know that Coleman&nbsp;won.&#8221;</p>
<p>How could anyone be surprised that both sides are dug in for the long haul with the fillibuster proof margin in the Senate hanging by a thread? A re-vote would decide it once and for all. Do you think either side of a losing verdict might appeal to a federal level? In hind sight, the decision to hold the recount all accross the state (a money saving move), using different criteria has put this in the mess it is. Neither side will believe justice has been served with the jugdes&nbsp;decision.</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-33017</link>
		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hogwash. Franken won, and Norm can’t show an anomaly large enough to show he was the winner. Franken should take the seat and stay there, instead of making up new rules as we go along.&quot;

But we don&#039;t know that Franken won.  We don&#039;t know that Coleman won.

If this was a House election, no big deal.  We&#039;re already 1/2 way to the next campaign.  But this is six long years of wondering if the person we sent to the Senate was any more valid of a winner than had we flipped a coin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hogwash. Franken won, and Norm can’t show an anomaly large enough to show he was the winner. Franken should take the seat and stay there, instead of making up new rules as we go&nbsp;along.&#8221;</p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t know that Franken won.  We don&#8217;t know that Coleman&nbsp;won.</p>
<p>If this was a House election, no big deal.  We&#8217;re already 1/2 way to the next campaign.  But this is six long years of wondering if the person we sent to the Senate was any more valid of a winner than had we flipped a&nbsp;coin.</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-33012</link>
		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How did you feel about Bush/Gore? Did you feel this way about that race?&quot;

didn&#039;t like it.  In fact, I only voted for Bush once.  I&#039;ll let you guess which time.  However, the fundamental issue is different.  Bush&#039;s margin in the electoral college, when it was all said and done, was a full percentage point, so it is hard to compare.  His margin was about 100 times greater than the margin we&#039;re talking about here, and we all agree that 2000 was close.

Yeah, yeah, I know Gore won the popular vote.  I have a problem with the electoral college, too.

I just have problems with elections.  Oh, for the days of 2006, when Klobuchar won with 60%.  There is some good closure to hearing the &quot;thud&quot; of a good stomping, even if it is your candidate who loses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How did you feel about Bush/Gore? Did you feel this way about that&nbsp;race?&#8221;</p>
<p>didn&#8217;t like it.  In fact, I only voted for Bush once.  I&#8217;ll let you guess which time.  However, the fundamental issue is different.  Bush&#8217;s margin in the electoral college, when it was all said and done, was a full percentage point, so it is hard to compare.  His margin was about 100 times greater than the margin we&#8217;re talking about here, and we all agree that 2000 was&nbsp;close.</p>
<p>Yeah, yeah, I know Gore won the popular vote.  I have a problem with the electoral college,&nbsp;too.</p>
<p>I just have problems with elections.  Oh, for the days of 2006, when Klobuchar won with 60%.  There is some good closure to hearing the &#8220;thud&#8221; of a good stomping, even if it is your candidate who&nbsp;loses.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Cairns</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-32995</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Cairns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DTM says:&lt;i&gt;Let Franken take this seat. For two years.&lt;/i&gt;

Hogwash.  Franken won, and Norm can&#039;t show an anomaly large enough to show he was the winner.  Franken should take the seat and stay there, instead of making up new rules as we go along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DTM says:<i>Let Franken take this seat. For two&nbsp;years.</i></p>
<p>Hogwash.  Franken won, and Norm can&#8217;t show an anomaly large enough to show he was the winner.  Franken should take the seat and stay there, instead of making up new rules as we go&nbsp;along.</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-32992</link>
		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m sure Really? and DtM will be more than happy to chip in their fair share of the millions a revote will cost.&quot;

Given that we&#039;re the #5 taxed state per capita, I&#039;m surprised there wouldn&#039;t be money in the system to cover it.  Where does all the money go?  

I&#039;m not averse to being the 5th highest tax state.  But it sure doesn&#039;t feel like we get the 5th highest level of benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m sure Really? and DtM will be more than happy to chip in their fair share of the millions a revote will&nbsp;cost.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given that we&#8217;re the #5 taxed state per capita, I&#8217;m surprised there wouldn&#8217;t be money in the system to cover it.  Where does all the money&nbsp;go?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not averse to being the 5th highest tax state.  But it sure doesn&#8217;t feel like we get the 5th highest level of&nbsp;benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: southwestdem</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-32990</link>
		<dc:creator>southwestdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DTM-- Just not sure a state can override the constitution in the way you describe.  Isn&#039;t it in the constitution that a senator shall serve a 6 year term?

How did you feel about Bush/Gore?  Did you feel this way about that race?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DTM&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;Just not sure a state can override the constitution in the way you describe.  Isn&#8217;t it in the constitution that a senator shall serve a 6 year&nbsp;term?</p>
<p>How did you feel about Bush/Gore?  Did you feel this way about that&nbsp;race?</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/03/poll-minnesotans-divided-on-re-vote/#comment-32979</link>
		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My solution would be a fair one, but is not called for in law so would probably never happen.

Let Franken take this seat.  For two years.

Have another election in 2010, a full election with (very likely) new candidates from the other parties.  This election was &quot;won&quot; by such a statistically insignificant figure that at worst we&#039;ll send the wrong guy to Washington, and at best we have someone who Minnesotans preferred by a fraction of a hair.  Hardly a mandate.

Give Franken his due - give him two years of setting policy.  If he is that good, he&#039;ll be a shoe-in in 2010.  It will still keep our Senate elections staggered by two years.

And with it, create a permanent law stating that if a Senator is ever elected by a margin that is less than one tenth of one percent over the runner up, that seat will be held for two years.

I&#039;m all for sending Franken to DC and getting this over with.  I&#039;m not all for making Minnesotans spend a full six years wondering if the system was accurate down to the thousdands-of-a-percent, which is what it would have to be to get this one right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My solution would be a fair one, but is not called for in law so would probably never&nbsp;happen.</p>
<p>Let Franken take this seat.  For two&nbsp;years.</p>
<p>Have another election in 2010, a full election with (very likely) new candidates from the other parties.  This election was &#8220;won&#8221; by such a statistically insignificant figure that at worst we&#8217;ll send the wrong guy to Washington, and at best we have someone who Minnesotans preferred by a fraction of a hair.  Hardly a&nbsp;mandate.</p>
<p>Give Franken his due - give him two years of setting policy.  If he is that good, he&#8217;ll be a shoe-in in 2010.  It will still keep our Senate elections staggered by two&nbsp;years.</p>
<p>And with it, create a permanent law stating that if a Senator is ever elected by a margin that is less than one tenth of one percent over the runner up, that seat will be held for two&nbsp;years.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for sending Franken to DC and getting this over with.  I&#8217;m not all for making Minnesotans spend a full six years wondering if the system was accurate down to the thousdands-of-a-percent, which is what it would have to be to get this one&nbsp;right.</p>
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