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But it’s not about Obama!!!!
Lord knows those protesters from the left ALWAYS stayed on message, and NEVER expressed outrage. Other than the shit/piss bombs and bricks through windows I guess.
SeanH, one group of signs?, you characterize the whole rally from one group of signs? That is shamelessly unfair. Hell, you could have made those orange signs in your basement, had your buddies hold it to take the picture and then left. An honest person would admit that a vast majority of the folks there had signs criticizing Congress, but I wouldn’t expect the spinsters at Publius to be honest.
An honest person would admit that these protests wouldn’t be happening if McCain was in the White House but evreything else was the same.
That is exactly the point the lefties and the media are missing. Many/most of the people attending are just as upset with congress as they are at the new administration. Bush included, spending is out of control. Now Obama is spending at rates unimaginable. People are worried about they’re futures, and especially the futures of their kids and grand kids. You have no idea the magnitude of debt we are accruing and what it means to our future. Do you envision a USA that is beholden to China? So no, I don’t think McCain would have been the answer to our problems, but the deficit would not be growing at this rate. Why do you think that all of these bailouts and wasteful government spending are the answer? And, Danny is right. Of course you would pick out the sign that you can use to rally all your liberal friends as to the true intent of the events yesterday.
And C-Man, if you guys had your way we would become more and more beholden to China for the sole purpose of protecting the ultra-wealthy. You are foot soldiers fighting Hannity/Limbaugh’s war. They do not car if we are fully owned by China, as long as they get there’s. Don’t you see that the only ones who have been fiscally responsible in the last 30 years are Democrats. It took 8 years of Clinton to finally pull out of the Regan/Bush 1 mess and get us back to a surplus, and then you guys destroyed it again. CMan, you and your kind are selling us down the road to China, international banks, and multi-national corporations.
Bullsh*t SeanH,
I was at the past two Tax Day protests. For MN and the US, we had a Repub Admin and Dem Congress. If McCain would have pulled this crap I would have been even more upset. Crap like this you expect from Dems, and unfortunately, just as much from Repubs lately.
SeanH, you are obviously projecting your liberal lefty double standards. If five (and counting) Bush Admin officals would have been tax cheats yet we were told that is was not a problem, you would be going apesh*t.
Really?
SeanH must have hit the “oh no it’s the truth being told” nerve, at least for a documented apologist such as yourself.
Your outrage is manufactured.
Great Job!
I don’t think the folks that were out there are too fond of McCain either. I didn’t see one McCain shirt or bumper sticker. Honestly, did you? Maybe someone should post a picture of a pro-mccain attendee, I’m curious to know.
Danny,
Why are you a foot soldier fighting to keep Limbaugh’s money? Those guys don’t care about the health of America or else they would have been beating this drum since 1980.
Man, I know you won’t believe this, but I hate Rush.
McCain was just as bad. The tea parties were not funded by anyone nor were they headed by any political party. Politicians were not aloud- They are the problem. No one is listening, left or right. This was the people standing up saying “enough is enough”.
You completely missed my point.
If McCain was in office Fox wouldn’t have been promoting this 24/7 and the well funded think tanks that started this pile o astroturf wouldn’t have gotten involved. There still may have been demonstrations but they would have been much much smaller than the meager attendance yesterday.
BS once again, SeanH.
Seeing that it was the DEM Congress who passed the most lefty pork-laden spending bill (with plenty of Repub pork), the country would have been just as pissed. Especially if that grumpy old man bent over and took it from the Dems.
SeanH, you just don’t get it. It is not just Dems vs. Repubs, it is the Freedom of the People against the Tyranny of an oppresive government. Of which you seem to be OK
Really?
“Tyranny of an oppresive government”
What is that, a conspiracy theory? It sounds more like another successive escalation in the venom of your rhetoric.
So it’s “us” vs. “them”, isnt it once again with you, Really? You think your friends, co-workers, neighbors, and family members who disagree with you on issues are your enemies?
Some of your fellow Americans are communist fascist marxist leftist socialist istists in your head. Are you questioning their patriotism?
Does it ever get old?
Great Job!
If McCain was in office, perhaps we wouldn’t have had the most careless and hasty spending bill in the history of our nation to complain about. That is why turnout was higher this year.
As Rahm said, a crisis is a terrible thing to waste, and this administration understands that principle intimately.
DantheMan,
Are you then predicting that the bill will not work?
The economy will turn around. Perhaps a contributing factor will have been this stimulus, perhaps not. It is all relative. Obama will say it worked, the Repubs will say it didn’t.
What I am pretty sure of is that we didn’t need to spend so much money so hastily, and with permanent ramifications as we did. Wasteful, bloated spending is not a requirement to dig out of a recession.
Nitro,
Really man, your lack of comprehension should embarrass you back into your basement.
I said tyrnnary of the government. My friends and neighbors are not the government, you see, since they are part of “we the people”. I might disagree with some of them, but they are not the ones aremed with laws and the power of coercion to make me change my lifestyle and take away freedom of choice.
The government made it THEM vs WE THE PEOPLE when they stated that people who don’t like big government spending , those who believe in the constitution, those who defend it, and those who don’t like killing babies could be enemies of the state.
I never mentioned patriotoism or lack thereof, you did. Projecting your own viewpoints again, I see.
Once again, your hatred of the truth and of conservatives and Republicans and anyone without your own viewpoint is sad. Also could be clinical. Get it checked, will you.
Really?
Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true.
You have no track record that makes you or your fellow dittoheads credible. Period.
Your bluster is basically what we’ve all heard over and over and over 1,000’s of times. That doesn’t make it true.
After many many years of listening to your crap over and over, I doubt wheather too many people are buyin’ what you are sellin’, unless they are just dittoheaded clones of yourself.
“our hatred of the truth and of conservatives and Republicans andanyone without your own viewpoint is sad”
Maybe you should tell me then, since you are so smart, what my “viewpoint” even is? That sounds like a pretty vague, broad attack, something you just say as a knee jerk reaction.
YOUR viewpoint, on the other hand, is very familiar. I saw 100’s of signs with your viewpoint, if you agree with the teabaggers. I don’t think those views are as popular as you might think, Really?
My friends and neighbors are not the government, you see, since they are part of “we the people”.
Interesting point there. Completely wrong but interesting coming from a Republican.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
That was written by a Republican President. In the aftermath of one of the greatest episodes of human slaughter in human history.
A little more then two hundred words later he said
that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Among the myriad things Lincoln was trying to convey in 278 words was we are the government. We are one nation. The hyperbole of the right right now is bordering on treason. Where is the oppression? Where are the violations of the Constitution? Where are the warrantless wiretaps? Where’s the torture? Where’s the illegal war? Where’s the fear and smear campaigns against those who deign to dissent?
The right has nothing but empty hyperbole to try and rally it’s base. Once it’s base figures out the right has nothing then even empty hyperbole won’t be enough. What will they resort to then?
Where were you toolbags with your “commander in thief” signs while Bush was DOUBLING the national debt (not including the trillion pissed into Iraq)????
Kissing Bush ass is where you were. Strong work, conservatives!
Yep, all of a sudden they are concerned about the debt. Not a peep when Reagan and the Bushes were sending it through the roof.
So when you guys get over Bush and can justify triple spending to spite the previous administration, maybe you will realize that this is a non-partisan issue. The Democratic appointed Budget Office has told their leader that his budget will bring us to our knees so what part of nor more money do you not understand.
Your mockery is out of fear and if you take time and read books by those that Obama claims as mentors, you would learn that the problem is so much bigger than your little arguments.
Go back and search posts from 2007 and 2008. You’ll see plenty of criticism of Bush from me on that exact topic.
There were conservatives that couldn’t stand the Bush years, they held a convention at the Target Center during the RNC. The Ron Paul folks, crazy as some of them are, are conservatives that despised Bush economic policies and hate the loss of civil liberties. They aren’t a large group, but you said it yourself SeanH, that the attendence yesterday was meager. These “toolbags” (you are so cool, by the way) have been there all along, and they are pissed off.
These people weren’t doing SQUAT while Bush ruined the economy, and our standing in the world. You compare a protest during the RNC that had meager attendance to crowds of hundreds or thousands at many cities around the US? Pathetic.
Also, it has been many years since I cared whether somebody thought I was “cool” especially a conservative.
Danny,
Maybe you weren’t there. There were at least two guys prancing around with McCain/Superwoman T-shirts on.
Just a bunch of typical frightened right wing whiners.
Also Republican former auditor Pat Anderson (Awada) and Republican governor candidate Sue Jeffers were there warming up the crowd.
This was the Faux New/Wingnut base. 2000 of the biggest whiners out of 6,000,000 residents.
Well, these teabag people have a point, but it is about power and who has it instead of taxes and who pays them.
We need to listen, hear the concerns, and then make sure we aren’t fools.
Our government is working hard, but the extremists are rallying a base by instilling fear. Bit by bit, people are getting worried. Hmm, sound familiar? Republican tactic.
I think it is a Republican party survival tactic. They were worried about total collapse, and this is the answer. This is the counter.
The problem is, if we stopped and took a look around, most of us value our democracy. We value personal liberties/ freedoms, and we value the opportunity to make it big. This teaparty thing is poorly focused and wrongly framed. It’s just plain irresponsible.
Sorry to disagree. So, you would have no fear of bankrupting your country. As I stated in an earlier post, do you want another country (such as China) to hold such power over us that we can’t make critical decisions for the good of our country. Remember, they are a Communist country. What I can’t understand is if you truly value democracy and personal liberties/freedoms, how you are supporting the road we are going down.
C”Man”,
“So, you would have no fear of bankrupting your country”
So your are predicting, because you are an oracle, that we will go bankrupt, and that’s your right as a dittohead to pretend that you have that ability.
But you don’t.
After 8 years of kissing China’s ass and pretending trade deficits don’t matter, and pretending manufacturing jobs don’t matter, you’re suddenly the anti-China spokesman?
You disgust me.
“What I can’t understand is if you truly value democracy and personal liberties/freedoms, how you are supporting the road we are going down.”
Bush led us down that path for 8 years, 4 with a Republican majority in the House and Senate. That’s what brought us here, and YOU dittoheads were the enablers.
I am not scared of China, I think they’ve been good friends to us lately. We are influencing them in many ways, including “worker value” and more.
They are moving towards greater individual rights, which I like. I’m strongly against Communism.
So, you think the “no taxation with representation” teaparty is about something other than taxes. It’s time to go past your usual witticisms and give suggestions. Not just “what’s wrong” but what can we do (in a positive manner).
What would you do to fix the economy? I think the government is doing everything it can to help us. We’ll see the federal money here soon. It sounds like the unemployment benefits were same or not increasing, too. We won’t get as bad as we were in 1982, perhaps. Of course there is a lot of folks who aren’t registering on the unemployment radar.
CMan,
I am deathly afraid of bankrupting our country, and being ruled by corporate aristocracy. Thomas Jefferson foretold this day when we would fear more from banks than standing foreign armies. You are enabling the people who are doing this to us CMan. You are fighting for the corporate royalists who want no rules and care more about profit than the country. Their responsibility is to their shareholders, so we shouldn’t be surprised when they destroy this country for short term profit. You enable them and their rape of our country.
It’s not about left or right, Republican or Democrat. In fact I would say a large majority of those in attendance (including me) were either Constitution party supporters or Libertarians. Many of us have removed the blinders given to us by the mainstream media (INCLUDING FOX NEWS)and determined ourselves that something is not right. Go back to the late 1700’s and look at history repeating itself… The silent majority, is silent no more!
Chad22,
If you honestly want us to believe this is not about party, then where were you the last 30 years? (And I man “you” in the collective tea bagger party sense, not you personally). It is just coincidence that you got fed up at the start of an administration that you didn’t like.
I’m tossing around the idea that maybe we’re seeing nothing but plain old venting.
Consider this:
- Republicans generally don’t rip on each other. Reagan’s old adage, “One must not speak ill of a fellow Republican” looks to be truer than we think.
- Republicans are more like lemmings than democrats. They need a strong leader to follow. Grassroots just isn’t their bag.
- These result in them stewing with their resentments. After 8 years, that pot’s ready to blow with a vengeance. And typical of bottled up resentments, they come out in twisted ways (calls for impeachment, sticking “socialist”, “communist”, “muslim”, “Chairman Maobama” labels on the president, ascribing to wild conspiracy theories like “he’s not an american”, the list goes on and on).
“Republicans are more like lemmings than democrats. They need a strong leader to follow. Grassroots just isn’t their bag.”
So is it still grassroots when all of the Democrats are enthusiastically following a fresh, charismatic, and articulate leader who is a master of organization (Obama), or isn’t that what you are accusing the Republicans of.
“So is it still grassroots when all of the Democrats are enthusiastically following a fresh, charismatic, and articulate leader who is a master of organization (Obama), or isn’t that what you are accusing the Republicans of.”
Nope, DtM, following Obama is not grass roots at all. Fight for universal health care is grass roots, fight for gay rights is grass roots, etc. Things that the corporate aristocracy does not support are usually grass roots. Supporting Obama is just good old good leadership. Following a good leader is not an evil thing, after all. From your side, Ron Paul was grass roots/Regan was good leadership/tea bagging is corporate aristocracy pulling the levers.
P.S.
Ron Paul was on AM950 this morning, and was amazed at how many things I agreed with him about. I think libertarian economics would destroy all American ideals, but his libertarian foreign policy has a lot to be appreciated, and he thinks torturers should not be immune to the law. So there you go, some conservative policies I can get behind!
Nope, following Obama is a relgion, becuase you have to believe in a lot of things that you can’t see and deep down know just can’t be true.
These same people also practive the relgion of Man Made Catastrophic Global Warming.
Here’s a link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/a-teabagger-timeline-koch_b_187312.html
Jane Hamsher put a time line together (if you don’t know of her, she is the founder of firedoglake.com, an excellent blog). For all of you here who want to whine over a photo or want to make something of the tea party which it never was, you really need to broaden your research. Just sayin’. I really comment only to help.
The real issue with the Teabaggers is that they are the result of Americans being frightened into foolish behavior. These people are seemingly calling for a revolution because the government wants to increase the taxes of the top 1% of the country by some 3%. Not a single one of the people in the pictures above makes $250,000 or more… if they did they would be wearing a suit, instead of the t-shirts and jeans of that crowd. I’m not looking down on them, rather I am trying to understand why these people are fighting against their own economic interests. Is it some vague notion that they someday may be “rich” like Joe the Plumber’s lies.
They are not driven by logic or facts. They are driven by Fox half truths, angst, unemployment, wars started by Republicans and a host of disturbing issues they feel a need to blame someone for… President Obama seemingly. It is a case of the dog biting the hand that is feeding them.
If China is such a big threat, why did George Bush keep increasing their economic power over us? Dumping Chinese steel, refusing to let their currency float and subsidizing all those exports are just a few of the things we allowed to happen. He’s the one they told to sit down and shut up about Tibet and Taiwan… and he did. Selling America to the highest bidder has been a foundation of the “free” market system in America since the British owned it all. Remember when it was the Japanese everybody was afraid off for buying American everything? How about the factory farms owned by European conglomerates? Cman must just love him some European capitalists owning massive amounts of the Midwest.
Your post is disgusting in many ways. Lets point out all of the stereotypes YOU named…
One, you assumed that only poor people were Tshirts? I was there…I wore a T shirt…and you have no idea what I earn.
Two, you assumed that the people there are too stupid to understand their own economic interests? Maybe they are protesting for everyones economic interests…maybe they dont agree with where Obama and Congress is taking our country? Are they allowed that?
Three, Why CANT they be rich…like Joe the Plumber? Doesn’t the American Dream hold true for everyone equally? The fact that you think its a vague notion says a lot about who YOU are…not them.
Four, You make it appear as though they cannot see the writing on the wall. That they are somehow too ignorant to think for themselves, and must someone look to a news source for their information…and they cannot discern that information for themselves?
I find your post, again…disgusting. It displays your ignorance towards what the OTHER HALF of America believes and thinks. It also displays your lack of RESPECT for the other half of America. Tolerance? Acceptance? Diversity? I think the lefties here are showing their true fascists colors….
Holly? You dont have a clue what you are talking about…so much so that I cannot garner a rebuttal that would make any sense as your statements dont set lucid standards to begin with.
You have no respect for duly and democratically elected officials in a democracy. You all are just sore losers. You lost. Grow up.
f’n a, Alec
Hmm, well then.
Don Huizenga,
“It also displays your lack of RESPECT for the other half of America. Tolerance? Acceptance? Diversity?”
Lots of irony there considering the source, and considering what we’ve all experienced from you trolls for 8+ years on line.
Great Job!
Well, I had a chance to Google Don Huizenga. It seems you are really using your name to make these comments.
Why do you think you need to garner a “rebuttal” against my comments, Don? I view commenting as a conversation. Some folks pop in and leave thoughts, some reply to others’ thoughts, etc.
It doesn’t have to be an online debate. I agree, by the way, that rich people can wear T-shirts and that everyone should be able to get rich (called the “American Dream). What fun to talk of such things. T-Shirts.
For anyone (not just Don):
1. Unfettered capitalism would squash the American Dream. Yes? Do we agree?
2. People might not understand their own economic interests. It’s a complicated system. Do we agree?
Strangely, however, the teabaggers were protesting tax increases while their paycheck was PROBABLY showing something like 60 less a month in taxes. Or some amount less in taxes.
3. It bugs me that people are yelling amount “Socialism” and (as the sign says above) anti-commander in chief stuff like “Impeach the Usurper”. Those same people might be living in a shack if we didn’t try to do something. It’s pathetic to see people turn on their country because “MAYBE” we’ll lose power to the government. We should be asking for specifics.
Those of you who think “Trust No One”, can’t you be a little more patriotic? How about trusting in your fellow Americans?
Your fear might get in the way of good programs like Ameri-Corps, whose participants work with nonprofit organizations to build homes for poor people, tutor schoolchildren, promote literacy, clean up parks and operate after-school programs, all for a modest stipend. (http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/search?q=Ameri-Corps)
American Re-Education camps, my ass. What a dumb fear-mongering technique to rile up those who must be already paranoid citizens.
Amuseinc. I’m looking at this budget http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/fy2010_new_era/Summary_Tables2.pdf
…and pdf page 5 lists under receipts “individual income taxes” going up, if my math is correct, 116%. Are they going to get that extra income tax by raising taxes by 3% on the top 1%? I’m not being a smartass, I just legitimately want to know.
Look at yearly increases, not the total, and you will see how reasonable those numbers are. The first few years is where the over $250,000 tax increase has it’s biggest effect.
OK, here are the year;y increases
2009 to 2010 - 11.2%
2010 to 2011 - 12.7%
2011 to 2012 - 13.1%
2012 to 2013 - 8.3%
2013 to 2014 - 6.8%
2014 to 2015 - 6.0%
2015 to 2016 - 5.7%
2016 to 2017 - 5.7%
2017 to 2018 - 5.7%
2018 to 2019 - 5.7%
Ski U Mah Gopher,
Different income brackets pay different percentages of income, therefore, this still does not tell anyone how fair the increases are and who pays the burden of the tax increases. Why should some middle class taxpayer pay over 12%, while some pay 8%-ish, or none?
The numbers you posted only tell part of the story.
Perhaps you could elaborate a bit.
I don’t think that looks reasonable at all. What is all that money being used for?
“Danny”
“I don’t think that looks reasonable at all. What is all that money being used for?”
Yes, please tell us all what that money in 2018 is being used for.
Make Ski U Mah Gopher Be an oracle of policy prediction.
Great Job, “Danny”.
Thanks Nitro, I guess my question is this, why propose a budget that has us running in the red for another 10 years? It just doesn’t make any sense. I’m not asking Ski u mah to tell me exactly what the money is for, I just don’t know how you can justify doubling the tax burden and yet, not balancing the budget.
“Danny”,
“why propose a budget that has us running in the red for another 10 years?”
Tell me what your proposal is that is different than what has been embraced by POLICY and LEGISLATION that was put into place before Obama.
You are the critic. Teach us YOUR solution, “Danny”.
Danny, it’s all about jobs. If the stimulus package re-energizes the manufacturing sector then more Americans will have good, high paying jobs. Their income taxes will pay down the debt. President Obama’s announcement today of embarking on developing a high speed rail system in the country is particularly exciting. This could mark the beginning of a resurgent US Steel industry, engineering advances that can be exported and across the board return to US preeminence in the world for our inventiveness and our ability to innovate. Yes, the price tag is high, but not nearly as high as the price tag for doing nothing. I realize that conservative cowards are frightened by the prospect of our President’s success, but their fear is not for the future of the nation. It’s justifiably for the future of the GOP and it’s obvious irrelevance.
I mean doesn’t it piss you off that so far this year alone, we’ve spend 64 Billion on interest from the national debt. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/opdie032009.pdf
I know Bush increased the debt, but I just don’t get why we are proposing budgets that don’t address this issue. I can think of better ways to spend that money.
“Danny”,
“I can think of better ways to spend that money.”
Such as?
OUUU OUUU Let me guess. Let me guess. Danny, you’re going to say we need to cut the defense budget by 75%. I knew that you would.
Yes, Danny, it pisses me off to no end. We are owned, lock stock and barrel by China. In my estimation, from mountains of evidence, it started in 1980 with the end of 50 years of demand side economics and a redistribution of wealth to the top 1%. Our country was great because we had the strongest middle class. We had our rich, which is fabulous, but we were not top hevy by any stretch. 1980 brought supply side(vodoo) economics and the end of American equality. So yeah, we are at an imbalance accrued over 30 years. Once we re-entrench demand side economics we will rise again like we did during the greatest generation, but it will take awhile to return to sanity.
Nitro,
Paying down the national debt.
Richard,
Great Post, i love the defense budget stuff. How much money have we spent on No Child Left Behind? How about the Farm Bill? Ethanol etc. I don’t have a problem with govt. spending, I just want to see it done in a honest, responsible way, outside of the influence of lobbyists. Richard, I am a bit skeptical about your claim that the stimulus will cause a resurgence in the Steel Industry. I just don’t see it happening. Good use of “conservative cowards” though, I like it.
I posted the percentages to show the 116% increase in revenues over 9 years is not unreasonable,
The higher percentages early represent the increase in tax rates for the top 5% earners (which represent about 30-40% of income). The later years are inflation.
All this chatter is what scares me. “The One” is going to make us friends with China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, the Taliban just to name a few. Get serious! The leaders of these countries must just shake their heads in disbelief at some of the boneheaded things they see coming out of America. But, it gives them great hope for power (which I’m convinced many here are supportive of) When you have to face the enemy some day with a peace symbol, your going to be shit outa luck. Call me a hawk (or worse, I’m sure), I really don’t care!!
C”Rush”,
Again I remind you, just because you say it, doesn’t make it true.
I think most people read your comments and hear the same old familiar attitude, rhetoric, and dittoheadness that we’re all sick to death of.
Which is why your party is struggling, and will continue to struggle, as long as all you offer is familiar, failed talking points that your outrage addiction feeds upon.
LOLs “Call me a hawk”. Where was the “hawk” during 8 years of Bush?
I’ll call you a dittohead.
Great Job!
“The leaders of these countries must just shake their heads in disbelief at some of the boneheaded things they see coming out of America.”
You just perfectly described the result of the Bush administration. Good job, republican blogger cman!
Bush, Bush, Bush. Is that all we’re going to here for the next four 3 1/2 years. Get over it. It’s your turn now, get off your whiny ass Bush rants and defend your own misguided “solutions”. You talk about the same old rhetoric, go back and read some of your same old BS post after post. It appears year after year of Bush bashing has left you incapable of moving on. Your obsessed!
Bush, Bush, Bush. Is that all we’re going to here for the next four 3 1/2 years.
As a matter of fact, yes. It will be a relentless series of reminders of what a complete failure Bush the lesser was and compared to President Clinton, how utterly incapable and criminally negligent the GOP currently is. Hopefully, war crimes charges will be brought and the criminal Bush will find himself doing a perp walk to a cell in some Eastern European prison. Better get used to it. The GOP won’t be in the White House for a generation.
C”Rush”
“Get over it. It’s your turn now, get off your whiny ass Bush rants and defend your own misguided “solutions”.”
The strong, bold, steady, failed solutions of George W. Bush were defended by you C”Rush” for 7 years.
Why have you only given Barack Obama a month or so to solve all the problems you enabeled and ignored with your incessant defense of George W Bush?
C”Rush”,
” “The One” is going to make us friends with China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, the Taliban just to name a few.”
“The One” is only a term used by the dittoheads to describe Barack Obama.
Also…
Please offer some proof that Barack Obama plans on making us friends with the Taliban.
If you don’t, then we should assume you want to undermine our country.
What should someone who wants to undermine America be called?
We already are “friends” with China you idiot. It is types like you that enabled that.
“The leaders of these countries must just shake their heads in disbelief at some of the boneheaded things they see coming out of America.”
Like George W Bush.
News for you bud, we already are “friends” with China. Have been for quite a few years. The rest of your comment is just delusional hyperbole based on fiction. Nice try though.
You head is in the sand, bud!
C”Rush”,
There are so many comments you regularly make that accuse others of engaging in the behavior that you display.
That one takes the cake.
Great Job!
You head is in the sand, bud!
There’s a cogent right wing response. Full of irrefutable research and in depth analysis. Not to mention how well written it is.
How is it that all these, bag-head “protesters” were not arrested before they even left their homes. RNC 8 ring a bell with anyone? These bag-nuts are definitely a threat to our country and our national security.
to Rush: Richard Nixon was the one who got us into bed with China. Were you even alive then? Get a grip buddy.
Reading this blog proves exactly why the two party system has to go…
Once again, I’m reminded of South Park with Obama’s economic plan and his groupies’ vision of how everything will take care of itself:
Step 1: Steal the Undies
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit!
The GAO predicts that the budget deficit this year will be four times as high as it has been any year in history. They also project that the deficit, under Obama’s economic plan, will double in ten years. That’s not the debt — that is the annual defifit we run.
Tax us or not, we owe that money. I’m concerned about my obligation. At some point, it has to come home to roost.
Once again, I’m reminded of the rightwing’s plan to “Starve The Beast” - load the country up on debt during the reign of Boy Blunder And The Plunderers, so there would be no money left for social programs.
And that was just fine, then….they put the country, and the world, on the brink of meltdown.
Now, President Obama is faced with the tough choice - world-wide economic collapse, or excellerated federal spending to prevent it.
Predictably, those that cared less about Dumbya’s debt, object to President Obama’s.
Kind of like how they bitched and moaned during the Clinton years about the deficit and the debt, but then got in line behind He Whom Was The Uniter.
“Hypocrisy, thy party is GOP”
Well, speaking of a two party system, is there going to be a post about the CIA interrogation methods and approved torture techniques?
Michele Bachmann quote: …This [new administration’s] system is based upon a utilitarian worldview that measures human value only in terms of productive capability for the “best interests of the state”. Individual freedom is subservient to a collective society.”
To see the whole quote:
http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/2009/04/global-conspiracy-anti-american-thing.html
This is NOT a party thing!
It’s a tax paying American thing. Not conservative, liberal, nothing but accountability on governments part. They keep spending all this money… more than all the past presidents/administrations combined… and they’re putting it on the future generations- our children. Our children will never be able to live the prosperous lives we have if they’re loaded with over $100k owed in debt before they’re even born.
The reason any of us are so OUTRAGED is because our elected officials aren’t paying attention to us, they just keep spending away, and the media and government are making us out to be “extremists”. ARE YOU THAT DEAF? Or are you that caught up in corruption?
It just goes to show the same thing here… who took the picture and who wrote the title? Were they actually there paying attention or are they just like every other media source that is making this into a ridiculous game? This is not a game. You have no sense of what is really going on here? Your government is spending away your child’s future. And yet, instead of talking about the issues, you attack the people who are standing up for your children- because you are either too ignorant to learn or not pay attention to your government, or you have sold your soul.
This protest was nation wide and by far the most peaceful. Instead of showing pictures of violent and extreme left-wing protests from years past- grow a pair. Learn about what your talking about and when you have a weak argument, don’t be throwing crap and lies. We’ve had enough of that, and you’ve woken the sleeping giant.
If you ignore your rights, they will be taken away. Our constitution needs to be adhered to- it is what made us the power we are, and trying to change our foundation destroys the structure.
Bird,
“This is NOT a party thing!”
Well the dittoheads have made it a party thing by continuing their pattern of using half truths, lies, and false arguments to bandstand a false narrative that 100% depends on your ability to predict the outcome of policy. The Republican base has failed to prove their predictive abilities. You have no track record, Bird, and your words have lost their power because nobody trusts what you say anymore.
“Or are you that caught up in corruption?”
What corruption? Fill us in on that please.
“you attack the people who are standing up for your children- because you are either too ignorant to learn or not pay attention to your government, or you have sold your soul”
Again a desparate dittohead uses something precious as a wedge. Ever hear of the “War on Christmas”? It’s just another sad, predictable and disturbing narrative.
In addition, your Republican base turned a blind eye to everything that went wrong the past eight years, defending failed policy with hubris, arrogance, name calling, disrespect, fallacious argument, and lies. Were you paying attention then?
“We’ve had enough of that, and you’ve woken the sleeping giant.”
So now it is a party thing? I thought it wasn’t a party thing. Who is the “We’ve”. Judging from the 100s of pics I’ve seen of your teabaggings, and my visit to St. Pauls, it was a very narrow, intolerant slice of America.
In your land of mental midgets, your giant is a petite, “Bird”.
Our constitution needs to be adhered to-
Absolutely, and to that end, the past President needs to be brought up on charges of violating the rights of the citizens of the US with illegal wiretaps. He needs to be brought up on war crimes charges for illegally torturing enemy combatants and illegally imprisoning those suspected of having ties with the enemy. He needs to be brought up on charges and sent to freaking jail for his administration’s behavior these last 8 years. Where were you Bird, when your president was violating the laws of the nation and stripping your rights away with every signing statement? You answer that, and I’ll maybe give you the benefit of the doubt, that this teabag nonsense is not just about the Democratic party being in power, and instead, just a bunch of low info jackoffs who have finally had a “come to Jesus” moment. As I’ve said before, the bill is high, but not nearly what doing nothing would cost.
Holly
1. No…we dont agree. Unfettered capitalism started this entire ball rolling a few hundred years ago. By unfettered I mean lacking in government intervention. Capitalism is the free exchange of goods and services amongst private individuals for their own gain. BOTH parties share in a motivation to achieve a goal. If one party thinks it a bad deal, they do not complete the transaction. The only time this doesn’t work is if you believe that ONE party in the transaction is too stupid to realize that the deal may not be as great as it appears. Oh…wait….you do believe that. Sorry.
2. No, we do not agree. Again, you have this constant need to prove yourself smarter than most people? You are claiming that most people cannot judge, assess, identify, etc…their own economic condition? Thats just plain ridiculous. Lucid questions will illicit lucid responses. I cannot respond to such a statement.
Lastly, since we do not factually know what peoples paychecks say, I will assume, for arguments sakes, you are correct. BUT…what good is an extra $60 per month when it is being taken back in increased fees, energy taxes, etc? Whats the point and, why bother?
Lastly, I dont have an reservation about using my name as I am not ashamed of the principles of liberty and free-will to which I espouse.
You?