Comments on: SurveyUSA Polls the MN Gov Race http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:17:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mockinbird http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39701 Mockinbird Tue, 26 May 2009 12:06:14 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39701 Has anyone participated in this poll? To give a sense of how it was presented? Was it all against Pawlenty, or was Coleman cited as a possible challenger to Pawlenty? <strong>In culmination:</strong> This doesn't mean very much yet. People need to realize its a comparison against a future <strong>PART TIME GOVERNOR.</strong> Has anyone participated in this poll? To give a sense of how it was presented?
Was it all against Pawlenty, or was Coleman cited as a possible challenger to Pawlenty?

In culmination:
This doesn’t mean very much yet.

People need to realize its a comparison against a future PART TIME GOVERNOR.

]]> By: Mockingbird http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39700 Mockingbird Tue, 26 May 2009 11:43:56 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39700 <strong>In Context?</strong> Does anyone doubt Pawlenty's national ambitions? I don't think anyone on the right or left really believes he wants to be gov again, except as stepping stone. <strong>Check His Avis</strong> #2 is going to matter. #2 better try harder, because that's who is being set up as gov. Because we know Pawlenty is going to go traipsing around the country again, while he campaigns for a presidential candidate. And while he lobby's for a pivotal role in a national campaign, possibly as VP again. So we are left with whomever he selects as Lt Gov for a time. Can Pawlenty's numbers survive people realizing they may be voting for Molnau as gov? In Context?
Does anyone doubt Pawlenty’s national ambitions?
I don’t think anyone on the right or left really believes he wants to be gov again, except as stepping stone.

Check His Avis
#2 is going to matter.
#2 better try harder, because that’s who is being set up as gov.

Because we know Pawlenty is going to go traipsing around the country again, while he campaigns for a presidential candidate.
And while he lobby’s for a pivotal role in a national campaign, possibly as VP again.

So we are left with whomever he selects as Lt Gov for a time.
Can Pawlenty’s numbers survive people realizing they may be voting for Molnau as gov?

]]> By: Mockingbird http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39699 Mockingbird Tue, 26 May 2009 11:35:11 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39699 This is kinda silly right now. Does anyone remember the presidential candidates much who did not get to the final game? When you compare many candidates, to one -- as the above does, how the poll gets done is very important. This early in the race of course name recognition matters. You are most likely to know a little bit of the name you recognize, or believe that you do. If the focus is on the challenger, then the number of candidates & personal investment in one selection is less. If the focus is instead on Pawlenty, the incumbent - perceived dissatisfaction with him is paramount in the response. Or how far removed people have been from governance. And that says Pawlenty's BS of redefining what are taxes, into "fees" & the other doubletalk has worked only too well. But the mechanism of comparing many to one - overinflates the importance & stature of this ONE. Its just not mattering quite so much yet. We haven't invested yet. This is kinda silly right now.
Does anyone remember the presidential candidates much who did not get to the final game?

When you compare many candidates, to one — as the above does, how the poll gets done is very important.
This early in the race of course name recognition matters. You are most likely to know a little bit of the name you
recognize, or believe that you do.

If the focus is on the challenger, then the number of candidates & personal investment in one selection is less.
If the focus is instead on Pawlenty, the incumbent - perceived dissatisfaction with him is paramount in the response.
Or how far removed people have been from governance.

And that says Pawlenty’s BS of redefining what are taxes, into “fees” & the other doubletalk has worked only too well.

But the mechanism of comparing many to one - overinflates the importance & stature of this ONE.
Its just not mattering quite so much yet. We haven’t invested yet.

]]> By: Andrew http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39603 Andrew Sat, 23 May 2009 16:30:24 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39603 Are you serious? How weak they are? All the ones who are polling horrible have zero name recognition. They keep Pawlenty just above the danger zone. But when you compare the bad numbers to Dayton and Rybak make this already a toss-up race poll wise, well then it clearly shows a huge weakness for Pawlenty. Wait til the campaign revs up and everyone knows pretty much everyone, Pawlenty will be battling for his life if he runs for a third term. Are you serious? How weak they are?

All the ones who are polling horrible have zero name recognition. They keep Pawlenty just above the danger zone. But when you compare the bad numbers to Dayton and Rybak make this already a toss-up race poll wise, well then it clearly shows a huge weakness for Pawlenty.

Wait til the campaign revs up and everyone knows pretty much everyone, Pawlenty will be battling for his life if he runs for a third term.

]]> By: NorthernMNer http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39550 NorthernMNer Fri, 22 May 2009 14:00:43 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39550 I too doubt Pawlenty will be running again. This isn't the only polling done, and keep in mind, the sting of the unallottments hasn't happened yet. When it does, things will almost certainly change. The question we have is will Dayton, Entenza, Coleman, Rybak, et. al., be able to paint the eventual Republican candidate as a Pawlenty look-alike, and tie her/him to the sting of the unallottments? If they can, the DFL candidate will be in a much stronger position. Also, keep in mind we haven't seen any ads, interviews, or publicity for most of these candidates, especially up here in the northwestern quadrant of the state. As name recognition increases for the DFL, the numbers will change too. I too doubt Pawlenty will be running again. This isn’t the only polling done, and keep in mind, the sting of the unallottments hasn’t happened yet. When it does, things will almost certainly change.

The question we have is will Dayton, Entenza, Coleman, Rybak, et. al., be able to paint the eventual Republican candidate as a Pawlenty look-alike, and tie her/him to the sting of the unallottments? If they can, the DFL candidate will be in a much stronger position.

Also, keep in mind we haven’t seen any ads, interviews, or publicity for most of these candidates, especially up here in the northwestern quadrant of the state. As name recognition increases for the DFL, the numbers will change too.

]]> By: rm http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39548 rm Fri, 22 May 2009 12:37:04 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39548 Actually this poll shows how weak the DFL field is against Gov. Pawlenty. You cannot keep creating new tax brackets and expect suburban moderates who trend Democratic to support that. They view Pawlenty as the last stand against uncontrolled spending. Pawlenty will win hands down. People like Mark Dayton, Ryback, Coleman are all just jokes when they run for Governor. What are Coleman/Ryback going to say. "Look how good our schools in Mpls/St. Paul are "!!! Actually this poll shows how weak the DFL field is against Gov. Pawlenty. You cannot keep creating new tax brackets and expect suburban moderates who trend Democratic to support that. They view Pawlenty as the last stand against uncontrolled spending. Pawlenty will win hands down.

People like Mark Dayton, Ryback, Coleman are all just jokes when they run for Governor. What are Coleman/Ryback going to say. “Look how good our schools in Mpls/St. Paul are ”!!!

]]> By: Matt D. http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39510 Matt D. Thu, 21 May 2009 18:25:16 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39510 I agree with Zack, I don't believe Pawlenty will be the candidate. I just saw a gubernatorial blogger poll on mndem.com that listed the republican candidate as the "annointed one." I thought that was kind of funny since that is how the cons seem to pick their candidates. If it were Dayton vs. Brian Sullivan, Laura Brod or Marty Seifert, that would be much more of an interesting poll. I agree with Zack, I don’t believe Pawlenty will be the candidate. I just saw a gubernatorial blogger poll on mndem.com that listed the republican candidate as the “annointed one.” I thought that was kind of funny since that is how the cons seem to pick their candidates. If it were Dayton vs. Brian Sullivan, Laura Brod or Marty Seifert, that would be much more of an interesting poll.

]]> By: eb http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39508 eb Thu, 21 May 2009 17:35:57 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39508 Chris Coleman is running an exploratory committee as he used that approach to address the Mpls DFL Convention on Saturday. Chris Coleman is running an exploratory committee as he used that approach to address the Mpls DFL Convention on Saturday.

]]> By: Chris Truscott http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39506 Chris Truscott Thu, 21 May 2009 17:28:03 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39506 ZS writes (correctly): The results from the Dayton, Rybak and Coleman trial heats show that Pawlenty would be vulnerable in seeking a 3rd term as he falls below 50% against a well known challenger. I think name recognition controls all the other results. ----- Making this the most worthless poll ever. ZS writes (correctly):

The results from the Dayton, Rybak and Coleman trial heats show that Pawlenty would be vulnerable in seeking a 3rd term as he falls below 50% against a well known challenger. I think name recognition controls all the other results.

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Making this the most worthless poll ever.

]]> By: Josh http://mnpublius.com/2009/05/surveyusa-polls-the-mn-gov-race/#comment-39503 Josh Thu, 21 May 2009 15:41:37 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=5690#comment-39503 Chris Coleman is running...why would he be doing events down in Rochester during his Mayoral campaign if he weren't? I'm disappointed they didn't poll Steve Kelley in this matchup. Chris Coleman is running…why would he be doing events down in Rochester during his Mayoral campaign if he weren’t?

I’m disappointed they didn’t poll Steve Kelley in this matchup.

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