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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s radical agenda for students: Personal responsibility</title>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/09/obamas-radical-agenda-for-students-personal-responsibility/#comment-43692</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JH, you&#039;re so predictable it&#039;s boring. Just trying to push buttons, eh? Can&#039;t face the truth, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JH, you&#8217;re so predictable it&#8217;s boring. Just trying to push buttons, eh? Can&#8217;t face the truth,&nbsp;eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/09/obamas-radical-agenda-for-students-personal-responsibility/#comment-43678</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The percentage of GDP also increases because the public demands/expects more from government.

My point on raising taxes was directed at Pawlentynomics (although much the same could be said about Reaganist budgeting).  In order to fund its expenditures, the state could either raise taxes--unacceptable to many--or cut expenditures still further--also unacceptable.  The easy, happy-talk way out is to defer paying this year, and letting the next crowd worry about it.  There are three alternatives the state could have followed:  two were painful, one was foolish.  Unfortunately, we got door number three and as Timmy rides off into the sunset, we&#039;re stuck with the bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The percentage of GDP also increases because the public demands/expects more from&nbsp;government.</p>
<p>My point on raising taxes was directed at Pawlentynomics (although much the same could be said about Reaganist budgeting).  In order to fund its expenditures, the state could either raise taxes&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;unacceptable to many&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;or cut expenditures still further&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;also unacceptable.  The easy, happy-talk way out is to defer paying this year, and letting the next crowd worry about it.  There are three alternatives the state could have followed:  two were painful, one was foolish.  Unfortunately, we got door number three and as Timmy rides off into the sunset, we&#8217;re stuck with the&nbsp;bills.</p>
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		<title>By: lojasmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>lojasmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;party footsoldier&quot;

Not really.  I simply am able to recognize which party most typically acts in the best interest of most Americans/Minnesotans.  I&#039;m not an advocate of voting against one&#039;s best interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;party&nbsp;footsoldier&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really.  I simply am able to recognize which party most typically acts in the best interest of most Americans/Minnesotans.  I&#8217;m not an advocate of voting against one&#8217;s best&nbsp;interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/09/obamas-radical-agenda-for-students-personal-responsibility/#comment-43674</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re such a good little party foot soldier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re such a good little party foot&nbsp;soldier.</p>
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		<title>By: lojasmo</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/09/obamas-radical-agenda-for-students-personal-responsibility/#comment-43670</link>
		<dc:creator>lojasmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why do we suddenly need 22% of the GDP to fund government today.&quot;

That would be interest on the massive debt that Bush (both, and Reagan) incurred.

Bravo, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why do we suddenly need 22% of the GDP to fund government&nbsp;today.&#8221;</p>
<p>That would be interest on the massive debt that Bush (both, and Reagan)&nbsp;incurred.</p>
<p>Bravo,&nbsp;sir.</p>
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		<title>By: lojasmo</title>
		<link>http://mnpublius.com/2009/09/obamas-radical-agenda-for-students-personal-responsibility/#comment-43669</link>
		<dc:creator>lojasmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for your six month old strib link.  You&#039;re slipping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for your six month old strib link.  You&#8217;re&nbsp;slipping.</p>
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		<title>By: lojasmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>lojasmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we should go deeper into debt?

Or perhaps a tactic of increasing revenue, and decreasing expenditures.

Well, that would be a democratic tactic, wouldn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we should go deeper into&nbsp;debt?</p>
<p>Or perhaps a tactic of increasing revenue, and decreasing&nbsp;expenditures.</p>
<p>Well, that would be a democratic tactic, wouldn&#8217;t&nbsp;it?</p>
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		<title>By: DantheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not advocating paying no taxes as your argument seems to assume.  I&#039;m simply saying that if it was costing the government, say, 20% of our nation&#039;s GDP to fund government in 1990, 1995, and 2000, then why do we suddenly need 22% of the GDP to fund government today.

I know prices increase, but so does GDP.  I know we need to invest in things, but we were investing back then.

I hear alot of arguments on why we need to spend more $$ of on government.  Often times, I agree.  I rarely,though, hear a compelling argument on why, going forward, we need to allocate a higher proportion of our nation&#039;s earnings toward government.

Absolute dollars vs. proportion of our GDP.  Huge difference.  Huge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not advocating paying no taxes as your argument seems to assume.  I&#8217;m simply saying that if it was costing the government, say, 20% of our nation&#8217;s GDP to fund government in 1990, 1995, and 2000, then why do we suddenly need 22% of the GDP to fund government&nbsp;today.</p>
<p>I know prices increase, but so does GDP.  I know we need to invest in things, but we were investing back&nbsp;then.</p>
<p>I hear alot of arguments on why we need to spend more $$ of on government.  Often times, I agree.  I rarely,though, hear a compelling argument on why, going forward, we need to allocate a higher proportion of our nation&#8217;s earnings toward&nbsp;government.</p>
<p>Absolute dollars vs. proportion of our GDP.  Huge difference.&nbsp;Huge.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Handy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Handy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets raise taxes more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets raise taxes&nbsp;more.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amuseinc gets some points for honesty as well.  Yes, it was a draft in that it was sent out to the schools protested and only then revised.

Again, you&#039;re not denying its idealogical bent, you&#039;re simply protesting the protests against it.  That&#039;s fine, but don&#039;t accuse me of dishonesty when I tell you a.) that the speech was a good one, but b.) given the materials that the Department of Education circulated prior to that good speech, it&#039;s clear that the administration viewed the speech as a political opportunity.

Sorry, but your smug adherence to your talking points just makes you seem all the more ignorant as the facts are laid before you.  It&#039;s like the time you guys were trying to string up a congressman for saying he doesn&#039;t have to read a bill he knows he&#039;ll be voting against while you were defending a guy that says there isn&#039;t any point to reading any bill, let alone the ones he&#039;s voting for.(http://mnpublius.com/2009/08/republicans-dont-even-care-whats-in-health-bill-theyll-vote-against-it-no-matter-what/)  You don&#039;t care about the facts, you care about the narrative and the fact is Obama&#039;s department of education overstepped and anyone with an ounce of credibility and half a brain admits it.  So which is it that you&#039;re lacking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amuseinc gets some points for honesty as well.  Yes, it was a draft in that it was sent out to the schools protested and only then&nbsp;revised.</p>
<p>Again, you&#8217;re not denying its idealogical bent, you&#8217;re simply protesting the protests against it.  That&#8217;s fine, but don&#8217;t accuse me of dishonesty when I tell you a.) that the speech was a good one, but b.) given the materials that the Department of Education circulated prior to that good speech, it&#8217;s clear that the administration viewed the speech as a political&nbsp;opportunity.</p>
<p>Sorry, but your smug adherence to your talking points just makes you seem all the more ignorant as the facts are laid before you.  It&#8217;s like the time you guys were trying to string up a congressman for saying he doesn&#8217;t have to read a bill he knows he&#8217;ll be voting against while you were defending a guy that says there isn&#8217;t any point to reading any bill, let alone the ones he&#8217;s voting for.(http://mnpublius.com/2009/08/republicans-dont-even-care-whats-in-health-bill-theyll-vote-against-it-no-matter-what/)  You don&#8217;t care about the facts, you care about the narrative and the fact is Obama&#8217;s department of education overstepped and anyone with an ounce of credibility and half a brain admits it.  So which is it that you&#8217;re&nbsp;lacking?</p>
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