When pigs fly

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September 29, 2009, 6:00 pm | Category: General |

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  • lojasmo
    September 30, 2009 at 12:32 am

    Cue the nattering troll. On a serious note, who would have doubted that this would be the outcome in this committee?

    The HELP committee should be able to cobble some useful reform measures together. Pass it by budget reconciliation. Passing some kind of meaningful reform with a public option is the ONLY way the party is going to be able to save itself in upcoming years.

    Leave it to the democrats to blow it on a matter this iimportant…..and this popular.

  • Alec
    September 30, 2009 at 12:42 am

    No kidding. It's like we snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory every single time. The Republicans put themselves in a potentially decade long hole. Being nice Democrats we want to help them right out of their.

    The sad thing is, Democrats are so worried about re-election they don't realize passing good, universal, public option health care is the way to ensure our majority for years!

  • Guest
    September 30, 2009 at 1:56 am

    Not to focus on this too much, but it was obvious conservative Democrats would never let the public option become law.

  • CMan
    September 30, 2009 at 2:26 am

    It's amazing how you vote when your cushy job's on the line. Democracy in action. You gotta love it. Politicians listening to their constituents who know that the far left policies aren't what the people want.

    • lojasmo
      September 30, 2009 at 4:24 am

      Though my job would be somewhat negatively affected by the improvement of the national health state, I have lobbied all my representatives for substantive reform.

    • Alec
      September 30, 2009 at 1:00 pm

      CMan,
      The Blue Dogs are definitely NOT listening to their constituents. Unless you think corporations are constituents. Most Blue Dog districts support the public option, but the representatives real masters do not.

  • Ron Thiessen
    September 30, 2009 at 6:37 am

    A public option will be the ultimate outcome of reform. It is the only sustainable course. I will mourn our failure to recognize this when it happens. It hasn't yet. Whoever opposes this, Republican or Democrat, will lose in the end. This is true because the alternative is untenable; it is as simple as that. We are at a point in history where abiding ignorance is no longer an option if we want to survive as a nation; and I think we do. We still have too much to lose. Perhaps that could change if we descend into anarchy. I hope not. It is more likely that we will need to endure some continued self inflicted suffering before we wake up.

  • NorthernMNer
    September 30, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    The real key is which persons are picked for the Conference Committee that will reconcile the House and Senate versions. That will tell us what the content of the final legislation will look like.

    Conference committee bills go directly to the floor of each house, and cannot be amended. While the "centerist" Dems in the Senate may not vote for it, or even like it, none of them has indicated that they would join the Republicans in a filibuster.

  • DantheMan
    September 30, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    I think a Public Option will ultimately occur, or a NonProfit system of Insurances, which in my mind would accomplish the exact same thing: Wring health insurance profit margins out of the system. I actually think the Non Profit approach is more palatable to many Centrists, because it alleviates the constant temptation to bail out the Public Option with federal money, should the program hit hard times.

    A self-sustaining public option or Non Profit system, which operates by the same rules as any other insurer, is completely harmless and worth trying.

    • lojasmo
      September 30, 2009 at 11:44 pm

      Ah, but your plan does not work. Minnesota has had only non-profit insurance providers for years, and, health care costs are exactly in the middle of the pack, compared to GSP.

      Furthermore, Total premiums spent per worker has increased 73.8% in the same time frame.

      http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?...

      This, in comparison to the national average, which has seen an 88% increase in the same period.

       http://tinyurl.com/y9dkjhh

      Now YOU may claim that Minnesota's legislation has brought improvement, but both increases are unsustainable to the average American.

  • Alec
    September 30, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    As long as you find a system that eliminates the profit motive from health care you have a winner. The profit motive works great when you have companies trying to make better products.

    In health care, as long as there is incentive to deny people care, we will have a broken system. You have to remove that incentive. Even free market systems like Germany and Switzerland make it illegal to profit off of health care. Maybe this is what you mean by Non-profits DtM?

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