Comments on: A Glimpse Into The Future? http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:10:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jasper C. http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-47024 Jasper C. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:01:54 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-47024 It's disappointing to see Mnpublius is now echoing relocation threats and shilling for Club Wilf. Remember Don Beaver? It's disappointing to see Mnpublius is now echoing relocation threats and shilling for Club Wilf. Remember Don Beaver?

]]> By: Chris Truscott http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-47020 Chris Truscott Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:21:59 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-47020 Unlike Detroit, Minneapolis is still a city with a clear future. The Dome can be razed. It's great downtown real estate on the light rail line. That said, we should start a pool on when the LA Vikings become the Las Vegas Vikings. LA has proven at least twice now that it can't/won't support the NFL. Unlike Detroit, Minneapolis is still a city with a clear future. The Dome can be razed. It's great downtown real estate on the light rail line.

That said, we should start a pool on when the LA Vikings become the Las Vegas Vikings. LA has proven at least twice now that it can't/won't support the NFL.

]]> By: CMan http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46955 CMan Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:28:36 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46955 The Metrodome was one of many FAD stadiums all built in the same era. Most all are now a piece of history, a few remain. I don't think the high dollar stadiums of today will become obsolete in 25 years. The teflon domes were nothing more than a covered shell with seats. One of the first of it's kind was built in Cedar Falls, IA at the University of Northern Iowa. A controversial structure for sure. It is still in use, but was retrofitted with a structured dome years ago mainly because of the cost just to keep it blown up. Just a guess, but the Metrodome probably costs 2-3 million a year to inflate. If you look at Big Ten stadiums, most have, or are in the process of renovation. Big money is part of the college game also, and the amenities and boxes are being added to those stadiums to increase revenue. The Big Ten stadiums are 50 - 80 years old with Camp Randall at Madison in at 92 years old. So, I do believe any new Vikings stadium will exist much much longer than our 25 year old balloon. The Metrodome was one of many FAD stadiums all built in the same era. Most all are now a piece of history, a few remain. I don't think the high dollar stadiums of today will become obsolete in 25 years. The teflon domes were nothing more than a covered shell with seats. One of the first of it's kind was built in Cedar Falls, IA at the University of Northern Iowa. A controversial structure for sure. It is still in use, but was retrofitted with a structured dome years ago mainly because of the cost just to keep it blown up. Just a guess, but the Metrodome probably costs 2-3 million a year to inflate. If you look at Big Ten stadiums, most have, or are in the process of renovation. Big money is part of the college game also, and the amenities and boxes are being added to those stadiums to increase revenue. The Big Ten stadiums are 50 - 80 years old with Camp Randall at Madison in at 92 years old. So, I do believe any new Vikings stadium will exist much much longer than our 25 year old balloon.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46950 DantheMan Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:37:21 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46950 The Iowa Football coach makes $3 million a year. Until yesterday, the Vikings head coach was making $2 million a year. Yeah, the Hawkeyes are Iowa's pro team. The only exception is that when you build a stadium for a collegiate team, even when the head coach has a $21 million contract, there is little handwringing. The Iowa Football coach makes $3 million a year. Until yesterday, the Vikings head coach was making $2 million a year. Yeah, the Hawkeyes are Iowa's pro team.

The only exception is that when you build a stadium for a collegiate team, even when the head coach has a $21 million contract, there is little handwringing.

]]> By: lojasmo http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46949 lojasmo Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:31:57 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46949 Really? The dome has become obsolete in much less than my remaining life expectancy. Really? The dome has become obsolete in much less than my remaining life expectancy.

]]> By: Alec http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46947 Alec Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:23:46 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46947 Just to clarify, there is no "good", rational reason for this to happen, but it is not an intellectual decision. It is a visceral, emotional decision. Logically we would do just fine without a stadium or the Vikings. We would just be a nice pleasant version of Iowa North. Our society, our leaders, and our citizens are not Vulcans though. We act on emotion a lot. That is why this will happen. Just to clarify, there is no "good", rational reason for this to happen, but it is not an intellectual decision. It is a visceral, emotional decision. Logically we would do just fine without a stadium or the Vikings. We would just be a nice pleasant version of Iowa North. Our society, our leaders, and our citizens are not Vulcans though. We act on emotion a lot. That is why this will happen.

]]> By: Kerosene Hat http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46946 Kerosene Hat Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:15:30 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46946 The least offensive way for the state to pay for such unnecessary items is the lottery. The lottery has about $80 million a year in profits which would mean a $1 billion stadium would take 20 years or so to pay off. About the length of time the stadium would last before they start to ask for a new one. The least offensive way for the state to pay for such unnecessary items is the lottery. The lottery has about $80 million a year in profits which would mean a $1 billion stadium would take 20 years or so to pay off. About the length of time the stadium would last before they start to ask for a new one.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46941 DantheMan Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:59:17 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46941 KH - I think you agree with me that an annoyance is when other people tell you how to spend your money, or worse actually spend your money for you. DJZ and I want to spend our money on the Vikings. Maybe its dumb. Maybe we don't get an economic return from it. I also spent money on a 6-pack last night, which probably is bad for me and I had to pay some user taxes on. But I would do it again if I had the choice. We need to find a way to help finance a stadium in a manner where people like me and DJZ pay for it, and you don't. KH - I think you agree with me that an annoyance is when other people tell you how to spend your money, or worse actually spend your money for you.

DJZ and I want to spend our money on the Vikings. Maybe its dumb. Maybe we don't get an economic return from it. I also spent money on a 6-pack last night, which probably is bad for me and I had to pay some user taxes on. But I would do it again if I had the choice.

We need to find a way to help finance a stadium in a manner where people like me and DJZ pay for it, and you don't.

]]> By: CMan http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46939 CMan Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:51:49 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46939 One correction to that. The Hawkeyes rule football in Iowa. It's their pro team. Iowa's coach is getting to the point he could be governor. The Gopher program is a mess. Brewster is getting to the point he couldn't get hired to be the dog catcher. You should see more proof of that Saturday. One correction to that. The Hawkeyes rule football in Iowa. It's their pro team. Iowa's coach is getting to the point he could be governor. The Gopher program is a mess. Brewster is getting to the point he couldn't get hired to be the dog catcher. You should see more proof of that Saturday.

]]> By: Pete http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/a-glimpse-into-the-future/#comment-46938 Pete Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:37:44 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7228#comment-46938 Because it's fair and makes sense. Because it's fair and makes sense.

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