Comments on: Conservatives look to abortion to “kill the bill” http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/ Tracking Minnesota Politics Since 2005 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:31:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: lojasmo http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46690 lojasmo Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:29:49 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46690 Whip count shows that Stupak-pitts brought only TEN democratic votes. Stupak now bloviating that stripping the bill in committee will lose 40 democratic votes. Stupak is an idiot. Whip count shows that Stupak-pitts brought only TEN democratic votes. Stupak now bloviating that stripping the bill in committee will lose 40 democratic votes.

Stupak is an idiot.

]]> By: Eva Young http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46685 Eva Young Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:51:23 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46685 Stupak knew exactly what he was doing. Stupak knew exactly what he was doing.

]]> By: DantheMan http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46654 DantheMan Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:42:31 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46654 Randy is right. Until 1973, the GOP was the party that insisted on staying out of peoples' personal lives. Randy is right. Until 1973, the GOP was the party that insisted on staying out of peoples' personal lives.

]]> By: bfranky http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46642 bfranky Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:35 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46642 How many anti-abortion congresspeople have gotten abortions for their daughters? Girlfriends? Wives? I bet quite a few. They are simply grandstanding on this issue. What's even worse, though, about the Stupid amendment is that it limits payments for routine gynecological services. What in the world does a visit to the gynecologist for an exam have to do with abortion? And shouldn't health insurance pay for that service? After all, if guys can get Viagra paid for, why can't women get their health needs paid for? How many anti-abortion congresspeople have gotten abortions for their daughters? Girlfriends? Wives? I bet quite a few. They are simply grandstanding on this issue. What's even worse, though, about the Stupid amendment is that it limits payments for routine gynecological services. What in the world does a visit to the gynecologist for an exam have to do with abortion? And shouldn't health insurance pay for that service? After all, if guys can get Viagra paid for, why can't women get their health needs paid for?

]]> By: Rhus http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46630 Rhus Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:19:21 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46630 We know what Catholic priests do with unwanted children. I wonder what other conservatives plan to do with them. We know what Catholic priests do with unwanted children. I wonder what other conservatives plan to do with them.

]]> By: Kerosene Hat http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46629 Kerosene Hat Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:10:21 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46629 A 400% difference in the rate is huge. I just have a pet peeve when somebody says one thing is over 100% less than something. 100% less of something is already nothing. A 400% difference in the rate is huge. I just have a pet peeve when somebody says one thing is over 100% less than something. 100% less of something is already nothing.

]]> By: Alec http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46625 Alec Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:31:18 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46625 KH, I am saying exactly that. Literally abortion rates are 4 times as great in the U.S. compared to the Netherlands. That is, let me check my math gain, a 400% increase. So my 1000 was an exaggeration. But a 400% difference is still huge Rate in netherlands is 5/1000 United states is 20/1000 according to U.S. National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health. Rate in the U.S. is KH,
I am saying exactly that. Literally abortion rates are 4 times as great in the U.S. compared to the Netherlands. That is, let me check my math gain, a 400% increase. So my 1000 was an exaggeration. But a 400% difference is still huge

Rate in netherlands is 5/1000
United states is 20/1000

according to U.S. National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health.

Rate in the U.S. is

]]> By: Amuseinc http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46618 Amuseinc Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:30:46 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46618 Because at the end of the day the end result does not justify ANY means. Because if short term goals being met by any means necessary can be extremely harmful and dangerous in the long run. I have always hoped that each side of American political debate had at its' core a better America for our fellow citizens. When the only goal is power or winning or destroying civil rights... well it just bothers me. Because at the end of the day the end result does not justify ANY means. Because if short term goals being met by any means necessary can be extremely harmful and dangerous in the long run.

I have always hoped that each side of American political debate had at its' core a better America for our fellow citizens. When the only goal is power or winning or destroying civil rights… well it just bothers me.

]]> By: Kerosene Hat http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46613 Kerosene Hat Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:36:06 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46613 The term 1000% is a meaningless term. Are you trying to say one tenth of one percent of that in the United States? Other than that I agree that prohibition is a bad replacement for education. The idea that all big "L" liberal policies reduce the need for abortion however is a bit far reaching. The term 1000% is a meaningless term. Are you trying to say one tenth of one percent of that in the United States?

Other than that I agree that prohibition is a bad replacement for education. The idea that all big "L" liberal policies reduce the need for abortion however is a bit far reaching.

]]> By: Steve http://mnpublius.com/2009/11/conservatives-look-to-abortion-to-kill-the-bill/#comment-46607 Steve Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:02:43 +0000 http://mnpublius.com/?p=7174#comment-46607 "To me, this is an incredible indication of how deranged some conservatives have become over health care reform. Erickson is so angry about the idea of making health care a right instead of a privilege that he’s willing to use abortion, one of the most important building blocks of the conservative base, as nothing more than a tool to try to derail health reform." If he doesn't believe health care should be made elevated to the status of right, why shouldn't he use any and every tool he can lay his hands on to try and derail it? I mean, it's the same with abortion. You believe it's a right, why shouldn't you use any and every method possible to ensure that it's always available her way, right away? "To me, this is an incredible indication of how deranged some conservatives have become over health care reform. Erickson is so angry about the idea of making health care a right instead of a privilege that he’s willing to use abortion, one of the most important building blocks of the conservative base, as nothing more than a tool to try to derail health reform."

If he doesn't believe health care should be made elevated to the status of right, why shouldn't he use any and every tool he can lay his hands on to try and derail it? I mean, it's the same with abortion. You believe it's a right, why shouldn't you use any and every method possible to ensure that it's always available her way, right away?

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