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This is beginning to become a bad Rocky parody. (Rocky being the Dems and Clubber Lang reping the Repubs).
In every Rocky movie he gets his ass kicked beyond belief in the ring and then suddenly, he finds the impossible strength to come back knock out his opponent. Except in this case, that ass-whupping is lasting beyond the fight and Rocky has found the strength to fight back.
Why are we not forcing this jerks to filibuster? Let them come on the floor in front of the cameras of our 24/7 news cycle and talk against a jobs bill. Same thing with the Main Street Bailout funds- though that money can be distributed through reconciliation.
Fight back Rocky!
They’re going to filibuster a bill?
May I be the first to say
DUUUUHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
If the Democratic Senate leader DOESN’T force them to actually filibuster, then Harry Reid has proven he is on the Republican payroll.
Too bad you don’t have the folks on your side. Just a bunch of delusional liberals screaming, “kill the bastards”!
I know! Isn’t it awesome how we managed to steal 59 senate seats, 256 house seats, and the presidency? All without anybody actually voting?
You’re right that the Democrats and the media played a perfect “smear the President” campaign over Bush’s last 6 years. Not that you would ever conceive of this, but Bush was not as stupid as what half the population thought he was. It was a masterful campaign. But, truth always wins out. Hope & Change (part two) is a comin’ me boy. Stay tuned!
Oh, by the way. A Fox News poll shows voters are out to target both Dems and Repub incumbents. I’m all for that. The good will survive and the scoundrels will vanish.
And win NINE Bush states, we flipped nine states. It was and is a media plot, that’s the excuse. A FOX NEWS “poll” that makes the light of day is suspect from the beginning.
Ok DJZ. Let’s just wait and see. Oh, and all you liberals from MN must be so pleased with Al Franken. Now known as the biggest radical in the US Senate. Please keep bringing more like him into your party. All washed up Air America (may it rest in peace) for congress.
“You’re right that the Democrats and the media played a perfect “smear the President” campaign over Bush’s last 6 years”
I didn’t know that CMan was that far gone that he’s a Bush defender.
*Smirk*
So noted.
Someone in the Republican party broke into the Democrats office and stole their playbook.
Not to defend the GOP — their perfectly partisan voting record of late is a little nauseating, but are you implying that anything with a clever title of a “jobs bill” should be quickly and unanimously passed? Perhaps what is a “current jobs bill” to some is a “future loss of even more jobs” to others. Just saying there is another side to this story than the fact they are preventing a vote.
Not sure how you are getting the impression that Jeff is saying it should be quickly and unanimously passed. He’s pointing out the stupidity of it automatically being filibustered before they even know what the bill is.
Trying to create a strawman?
If they had looked at the bill, then decided that it must be stopped you may have a point. But that isn’t what happened.
Shorter: “Not to defend the GOP’s feckless tactics, but that’s exactly what I’m going to do.” In other news, a KY senator has put a hold on EVERY Obama nominee….in order to get $4 billion dollars in pork. Precious.
Alabama.
The main issue is that the Republican Senator from Alabama insists that a military procurement be taken FROM Boing in the American Northwest and be given to a consortium of European companies with minor manufacturing facilities in surprise, surprise… Alabama. Makes you question his patriotism…
There is no Bill, no Proposal, no Appointee no anything that the Republicans will support. They have put all their eggs in the Just Say No basket. The President and the Democratic Leadership (is that an oxymoron?) in the Senate will have to call their bluff. Let the Senate grind to a complete halt (it barely is moving anyway), let government shut down, let the lights go out, stop the funding for the wars, let it all stop. The Republicans have decided that they are best served by failure, so let em fail.
We only need to wait until November. The people will sort it out. May the best agenda win!
The country can’t wait that long. There needs to be a showdown, soon.
The Republicans have no agenda, just failure. It is the politics of failure, they failed when they ran government and they want the Democrats to fail as well. The people voted in 2008 for new leadership and a new agenda. The clearly stated Republican response was a crass political decision of blocking everything, everything, and then complaining about what hasn’t been accomplished so they could offer themselves as change in 2010 and 2012. Unfortunately some gullible Americans have grown so frustrated with the pace of things that they are buying into the Republican play-book and taking it out on the Democrats.
Exactly. The reason you want to jam it through now is because if you wait until November, the dems will be toast. The gullible Americans are the ones that voted for socialism under the disguise of Hope and Change. I know I keep repeating myself, but stay tuned.
Time for the nuclear option. I never thought I’d write that; but if Republicans block every bill in the Senate, government is dead in the water.
What do you mean by “nuclear option” ? I assume you are implying some kind of maneuver to drastically change the senate procedural rules. From what I read this is very difficult and requires two thirds support. I have also read it can be done with a simple majority, when acted upon immediately when the new senate convenes (Jan. 2011). I have also read that Biden may have some power, as he officially presides over the senate(I am a bit skeptical on that one). Finally, I’ve read that the senate parlimentarian rules on
procedural conflicts, and the current guy, appointed by Bush, is probably partisan.
What to me appears the biggest problem is the senate seems reluctant to take up this fight. Obama administration appears no more motivated (or capable) to make GOP obstructionism a big issue. R. Gibbs referred to the Shelby blanket hold as an “example of silliness”. Not really fighting words.
I’d like to see a grass roots movement to amend the constitution to make the senate more democratic and functional. I don’t think this would realistically get anywhere, but it could focus attention of the problem and educate the public about who is mostly responsible
for nothing getting done.
Technical points: the Senate Parliamentarian is a Democrat. He was not appointed by Bush, and has no power to rule on anything (he can only advise). Senate rules can be changed by a standing order by majority vote, but the change would not take place until the next session, convening in 2011.
In other words, the Democrats have the votes they need to end this crap. Ironically, the problem with doing it may come from so-called moderate Democrats like Senator Landrieu, who can use the threat of not being part of the 60 to extract concessions.
I did a bit of research and found a post at dkos by Senator Udall, in which he describes a resolution he recently introduced regarding changing the rules at the beginning of 112th congress.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/26/830510/-Its-Time-for-the-Constitutional-Option
I also came across an article in the Hill about when the GOP was considering the nuclear option in 2005. It seems another example of IOKIYAR (ok if you are repuublican) to fire the parlimentarian and seriously consider unprecedented rule changes. Impossible to even imagine the dems considering this type of move. BTW, the Hill says T. Lott hired Frumin, the current senate parlimentarian, after he fired his predecessor, when he didn’t like some advisory rulings. It appears that Frumin was the most qualified and had bipartisan support.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/11056-parliamentarian-would-oppose-nuclear-option
I see the error of my ways. I was confusing a “no” vote on the bill with a filibuster and not even letting this come to the floor.
They should not filibuster this. That should be reserved for only the rarest of the rare situation, and this “jobs” bill doesn’t qualify.
We can still debate the merits of the bill and if it really helps us, but it should not be filibustered.
Shelby is gonna be the next Dede Scozzafava if he doesn’t drop this. I see this going away pretty quickly. The dipshit deserves a challenger anyway but I doubt they’ll spend the money on a seat they already have when there are so many they don’t. We shall see.
Olympia Snowe is going to be the next Dede. She actually has a vote on the record for health care in the Senate Finance Committee. That’s the equivalent of begging for a primary.