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Guv Fundraising Updates: Emmer, Anderson, and Dayton, Oh My!

I have a few updates on gubernatorial fundraising this afternoon and instead of dribbling the out piece-meal, I think I’ll just go through them rapidfire.  First up: Tom Emmer

Republican Tom Emmer has finally released his fundraising numbers and it’s now apparent why it has taken him so long — these are miserable.  To be fair, he raised a somewhat respectable total of $114,852 in 2009, but he spent $79,312 of it!  (I’ll do the math for you: that only leaves him with $19,154 on hand)  Given that his main opponent, Marty Seifert, raised $262,753 and has $133,072 in cash on hand, things don’t look to good for the E-Dog… Bottom line: Seifert has nearly 7 times the resources of his nearest opponent.

Next up: Pat Anderson.  Sure, she dropped out of the race, but these fundraising numbers may finally reveal why:  her Gubernatorial campaign ended the year over $30K in the hole!  A press release from State Auditor Rebecca Otto’s campaign dishes the details:

Anderson’s Gubernatorial campaign fared worse.  She raised just $29,659, which included a personal loan of $3,250, but she spent $65,596, ending the year with $39,174 in unpaid bills.

For those interested, Anderson’s new Auditor campaign has only $149 on hand…

And then we have Mark Dayton. For anyone who thought the former United States Senator wasn’t serious about this race, think again.  Mark Dayton loaned his campaign $570,000!  What’s more, he raised $72,000 in donations for a total of $641,821 in 2009!!  But what’s more, he only has $16,772 left in the bank!!!  Meaning he spent well over $600,000 on his gubernatorial bid last year!!!!  Alright, I’m out of exclamation points.  For those who remember, Dayton spent $12 million on his Senate race in 2000.

One’s thing for sure folks:  This is going to be one rip-roarin’ roller coaster!

The 2010 Gubernatorial Fundraising Cheat-Sheet has been updated with the above PLUS new information from Entenza, Gaertner, Kelley, and John Marty.

Supreme Court Rejects Emmer’s Amicus Brief

Tom Emmer’s gubernatorial campaign has been gaining momentum in recent days.  Emmer, who has been challenging front-runner Marty Seifert from the right, secured the endorsement of former Senator Rod Grams and State Representative Laura Brod.  Not everything, however, is going so well for Team Emmer.

Emmer made news early last week by announcing that he would file an amicus brief in the unallotment case with the Minnesota Supreme Court.   Sadly, at least for Emmer, the Minnesota Supreme Court doesn’t accept briefs from just anyone and when the Court released the list of parties whose briefs they wanted to read on Thursday, Emmer hadn’t made the cut.  I can’t say I blame them - I’ve been refusing to listen to Emmer for years. The court accepted briefs from the City of St. Paul, the City of Minneapolis, The Minnesota House, The League of Women Voters, Common Cause, The League of Minnesota Cities and a couple of law professors and gave no explanation for why they rejected Emmer’s brief.

Still, the slight is especially unfortunate considering that Emmer (who is an attorney by profession) has long been rumored to be interested in running for Attorney General. In fact, rumors that Emmer might switch to the AG race have been intensifying in recent weeks.  But you have to ask yourself just how effective an Attorney General he would be considering he couldn’t even write a brief interesting enough to compete with the League of Women Voters.

Rybak Posts Impressive Number: $278K in 12 Weeks

Mayor RT Rybak released his fundraising numbers today, which is a bit odd because Fridays are usually dumps for bad news and these numbers are pretty good.  But, whatever the strategy, here’s the important part of the release (emphasis mine):

R.T. Rybak’s campaign for governor announced today that it has raised a total of $278,000 in less than three months.  This includes $138,000 raised during the last eight weeks of 2009 and $140,000 raised to date through January 2010.  The Rybak for Governor Committee was created on November 5, 2009.

In addition, the Rybak for Mayor Committee, a separate committee, will report raising $389,000 from 2,457 donors in 2009.  In total, Rybak has raised $667,000 in 13 months through these two separate committees.

Rybak was long assumed to be running for Governor but only formally entered the race at the tail end of 2009, making him one of the latest entrants on the DFL side.  This is obviously why the campaign chose to shore up the numbers with additional information about his Mayoral fundraising.  Regardless, raising $278K in 12 weeks firmly places Rybak in the ranks of the more impressive fundraisers in this race.

Again, fundraising is not everything — by a long shot — but it is an important indicator both of the candidate’s ability to connect with voters and his or her ability to access the resources to mount a serious statewide campaign.  That being said, every single DFL candidate has posted numbers that should leave little worries on either front—especially given the dense field. The only candidates’ fundraising that I’d be worried about are Tom Emmer and Marty Seifert.  And, well, that makes me happy.

The 2010 Gubernatorial Fundraising Cheat-Sheet has been updated.

Poll: Who Will You Caucus For / Who Should I Caucus For?

[NOTE: The WordPress plugin that powers this poll tracks people via IP address.  Unfortunately, this means that if you’re in an office building (for example) that shares one IP address, only one person in the building gets to vote.  There’s really nothing I can do about this, sorry.  If you can get to a different IP address (a phone, for example), you will be able to vote]

I fully intend on participating in precinct caucuses next Tuesday night (find your caucus location here).  I don’t dare miss caucuses because I want to be part of my DFL party unit and, basically, I just want to be involved.  But this presents me with a bit of a pickle when it comes to candidate endorsement time.  See, I’ve been trying my darndest to stay above the fray on this one—this website gives me a bit (read: very small) of a megaphone and I think our slate of possible candidates is just too good for me (or any DFLer, for that matter) to start a mud-fight (I want to throw mud across the aisle!).  As I’ve said many times before, I’d enthusiastically support any one of the candidates who has a hat in the ring.  Of course, I have my own private feelings about each, but I truly don’t have an overriding favorite.

So, with all that being said, I have two polls for you.

[EDIT: I’ve reversed the order of the polls because I think it makes more sense to have the catch-all first; and that might reduce overvoting on the caucus-goer poll]

For the first poll, everyone should vote.  The title of this post is a bit misleading because I won’t actually defer to the poll, but I am interested to see where people are at.  And I sincerely will take it into consideration when I caucus, so if you can’t attend, this is your chance to influence the outcome from your computer.

EITHER WAY: Who do you want to win?

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For the next poll, you’re on your honor: please only respond if you plan on caucusing.  Obviously you can be a sourpuss and respond even if you’re not caucusing, but that kind of ruins it and it makes you a big jerk.

IF YOU ARE CAUCUSING: Who will you caucus for?

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2010 Gubernatorial Fundraising Cheat-Sheet [Updated x2]

After getting Bakk’s numbers this morning, I was in the process of compiling where all the various candidates are in their respective fundraising efforts when I noticed that Tom Scheck over at Polinaut had beat me to the punch [UPDATE: Scheck has an even better list now].  So, in the interest of saving myself the effort, I’m augmenting Mr. Scheck’s summary with additional information I had been compiling:

Tom Bakk (D):

  • Total: $361,927 (began fundraising in mid-2008)
  • 2009 Total: $208,682
  • Cash on Hand: $133,000
  • Other: none reported.

Mark Dayton (D): [NEW]

  • Total: $641,821 (committee registered in early 2009)
  • 2009 Total: $641,821
  • Cash on Hand: $16,772
  • Other: He loaned $570,00 to his campaign (!)

Matt Entenza (D): [UPDATED]

  • Total: Over $400,000 (began around January)
  • 2009 Total: $405,286 from contributors in 2009.
  • Cash on Hand: $73,917
  • Other: Matt made a $10,000 contribution to the campaign and loaned the campaign $70,000.

Susan Gaertner (D): [NEW]

  • Total: $200,411 (began in 2007!)
  • 2009 Total: $110,828
  • Cash on Hand: $4,347

Steve Kelley (D): [NEW]

  • Total: About $200,ooo (he never closed out his 2006 committee, so there are nominal contributions in 2007 and 2008, but he didn’t really start his push for this cycle until 2010)
  • 2009 Total: $187,249
  • Cash on Hand: $39,541
  • Other: Loaned $16,400 to his campaign

Margaret Anderson Kelliher (D):

  • Total: $254,000 (formally announced in September, not sure when she began fundraising)
  • 2009 Total: $254,000 from contributors in 2009.
  • Cash on Hand: $81,000
  • Other: She made a direct contribution of $250 to her campaign.

John Marty (D): [NEW]

  • 2009 Total: $105,895
  • Cash on Hand: $18,910
  • Other: None reported.

Tom Rukavina (D):

  • Total: $135,000 (announced exploratory committee in the summer of 2009)
  • 2009 Total: $135,000
  • Cash on Hand: $60,000
  • Other: None reported.

R.T. Rybak (D):

  • Total: $278,000 (started fundraising at very end of 2009)
  • 2009 Total: $138,000 (additional $140K raised in January, 2010)
  • Cash on Hand: $25,000
  • Other: None reported.

Paul Thissen (D):

  • Total: $370,000 (began fundraising in late 2008)
  • 2009 Total: $233,000
  • Cash on Hand: $85,000
  • Other: He also loaned his campaign $20,000

Marty Seifert (R):

  • Total: $262,753 (stepped down as minority leader in June to form exploratory committee)
  • 2009 Total: $262,753
  • Cash on Hand: $133,072.
  • Other: He also loaned his campaign $20,000 and transferred $20,000 from his now defunct MN House campaign

Tom Emmer (R): [UPDATED]

  • Total: $114,852 (began this summer)
  • 2009 Total: $114,852
  • Cash on Hand: $19,154.
  • Other: via Scheck: “His spokesman said he loaned the campaign and gave in-kind contributions that amount to roughly $10,000.”

I said it once, and I’ll say it again:  The DFL numbers are blowing the GOP numbers out of the water. In fact, just for fun, let’s compare totals here:

Party Totals (so far): [UPDATED]

  • DFL Candidates: $1,849,761 ($2,419,761 counting Dayton’s $570K loan to his campaign)
  • GOP Candidates: $429,463 (includes GOP candidates I didn’t bother listing above)

Let’s not get overly-confident, but let’s also not fall for the argument that our cluttered field has dampened enthusiasm, because that is obviously not the case.

Bakk has raised $361,927 to date

Bakk’s press release announces another amazing fundraising number for a DFL gubernatorial candidate:

With $137,830 cash on hand, Sen. Tom Bakk said he is in a solid financial position to win the DFL endorsement for governor in April. A legislator from Cook, who represents the Arrowhead Region of the state, Bakk is chair of the Senate Tax Committee.

“Between raising $153,245 in 2008, $208,682 in 2009, and meeting the fundraising goal for January 2010, I will have $400,000 to spend on the endorsement process,” Bakk said. “Throughout my campaign I have focused on the economy and my determination to create jobs. I’ve had an honest conversation with Minnesotans about the serious financial challenges we face. I’ve stressed that by working together we can rebound the economy, create jobs, and make the tough choices necessary to build a stronger Minnesota.

Without diving into candidate-vs-candidate analysis here (and, really, there’s not much to say on this—Bakk’s number is incredibly similar to both Thissen and Entenza’s impressive fundraising totals), I want to repeat what I said when Thissen released his similarly impressive numbers:

That DFL candidates will collectively break $1 million in 2009 gubernatorial fundraising is a fore-gone conclusion at this point [with Bakk’s numbers, it’s now a reality]. This is simply amazing and a testament to the fact that an admittedly crowded field has not interfered with, but perhaps enhanced, the appeal of these individually tremendous candidates. I truly mean this (and this is why I haven’t made a decision which to support over the others), I would be ecstatic throwing my support behind any one of these guys or girls: Entenza, Dayton, Kelliher, Rukavina (how fun would that be!?), Gaertner, Bakk, Thissen, Kelley, Marty, Rybak, the list goes on—these are all amazing individuals with very Minnesotan visions of how to govern this state and the direction we need to head to survive in this increasingly competitive world.

The DFL is fired up and ready to go. If I were the GOP and I saw the numbers these guys are posting, I’d be shaking in my boots.

The State of the Governor’s Race

Well, Norm is out.

As much as I want to say “I told you so,” everything points to this decision legitimately being up in the air for the past week.  Pat Anderson, for example, seems to have genuinely thought Coleman was getting into this thing.  And there was evidence of Coleman doing polling.  Was Norm’s dream of turning the Governor’s mansion into the Playboy mansion finally put to rest by bad polling numbers, or did the longtime politician just quietly decide that it was time to take a break?  Honestly, I don’t know and I don’t care.  Bottom line is this:  No more Norm.

So, where does this leave things?

To put it succinctly:  it leaves the DFL candidate running against Marty Seifert with Tom Horner running as an Independent.

That’s my best guess people; now tell me how I’m wrong.  Well, before you do, I suppose I’ll explain my thinking:  Marty’s winning this endorsement race and I’ll bet decent dollars that he comes out of it with the nod.  Sure, there’s the possibility that Coleman’s official departure from the scene will push some delegates to reevaluate the field, take a second look at Emmer, blah, blah, blah.  I don’t buy it.  Seifert’s going to be the guy because he’s been working harder, hustling better, and just plain seems to want it more.

But guess what, I’m fine with either one of them (meaning either Seifert or Emmer—if Sen. Hann is the candidate I’ll hold a happy hour for Publius readers and buy the first round) because they’re both firmly in the deep end of the GOP party-pool.  Seriously, I can’t wait for the inevitable Seifert (or Emmer) pivot to the middle after the endorsement (I don’t think there will be a contested primary on the GOP side)—you know those votes you took in the legislature?  Yeah, all of those are public record.

Which is precisely why I think Tom Horner is going to get in this as the IP candidate.  The GOP candidates are far-right, the DFL will go to a primary, and now there’s no alternative in Norm Coleman:  Horner’s a bright guy and I’m sure he realizes this is the best shot an IP candidate will have in a long while. Just take this Horner quote Eric Black published:

“Does Norm Coleman deciding not to run make it a different kind of race and campaign against people who don’t have broad name id?” Horner asked himself aloud. “Absolutely. Is that a better opportunity for an Independence Party candidate? Absolutely.”

Oh, and Horner just officially formed an exploratory committee.  But here’s the thing:  Horner is a former Republican and definitely on the conservative side of the aisle.  So, with far-right GOP candidates, does he end up just splitting the ticket on the GOP side and pulling a few independents in, or does he manage some support from moderate democrats?

This is about to get interesting…

Breaking: COLEMAN WILL NOT RUN

From KSTP (h/t @javimorillo):

Former Senator Norm Coleman told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Chief Political Reporter Tom Hauser late Sunday he will not be running for governor in 2010.

He will make the official announcement on his Facebook page. He released the following statement to 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS ahead of the announcement.

“I love Minnesota and I love public service, but this is not the right time for me and my family to conduct a campaign for Governor.

“Timing is everything. The timing on this race is both a bit too soon and a bit too late. It is too soon after my last race and too late to do a proper job of seeking the support of delegates who will decide in which direction our party should go. The commitments I have to my family and the work I am currently engaged in do not allow me to now go forward.”

More at KSTP.  Stay tuned here for more analysis.

Entenza Cycling Campaign Managers

Sean’s currently in car limbo, but he called me up with a little tid-bit:  Dana Houle has left the Entenza campaign after a 5 month stint there as the campaign manager.  Probably best known for his blogging at Kos, Dana was briefly picked up by the Tinklenberg campaign before he dropped out of the race in CD6 and then picked up by Entenza.

Word is the departure was mutual, but I really don’t know much more than that—not that it’s all that big of news anyway; campaigns are liable to switch CMs before the big-show begins.

Until the campaign settles on a permanent replacement, Bob Hussey will serve as the temporary manager.  You can read all about Hussey here, but here’s a quick highlight reel: Clinton ‘92, DOJ, private public relations, freelance writer, Minnesotan.

Scheck With the Scoop—Anderson to drop Guv bid and go for Auditor again.

The breaking news comes via Tom Scheck over at Polinaut:

Republican Pat Anderson’s campaign announced that she’ll hold a news conference at 10AM tomorrow to make a major announcement. She declined to discuss the specifics in advance but two people with knowledge of her plans say she will drop her campaign for governor and will run for State Auditor. Anderson held that office between 2003 and 2007 but lost her reelection bid to Democrat Rebecca Otto.

More at Polinaut.

Anderson was long considered one of the front-runners in the GOP endorsement race, but she has seemed to be losing momentum over the past few months as Seifert and Emmer battled for the headlines.  To be honest, I haven’t been following the GOP side of the endorsement race all that closely, but here’s my 2¢:  With Seifert seemingly running away with the endorsement, Anderson dropping out may actually benefit Tom Emmer by making it a more focused mano-a-mano battle.

As for the Auditor race, Otto’s already defeated Anderson once; so, there’s that.  But Anderson’s name (and it’s really more her name than name recognition given the low-profile of the office) may make this a more heated battle than Otto would have faced otherwise.  Still, Otto’s done a terrific job her first term by all accounts and knows how to run a hell of a campaign—I’m not too worried.

Kelliher Raises 254k in Four Months

Margaret Anderson Kelliher announced her 2009 fundraising total today.  So far, the Speaker has raised $254,000 for her gubernatorial campaign. I don’t have time to do any real analysis, but my very quick take is that this is an impressive, but not earth shattering total.

While its true that Kelliher raised less in 2009 than both Paul Thissen and Matt Entenza, she’s also been in the race for a much shorter period of time than either Thissen or Entenza.  Kelliher has been raising money for about four months now, while Entenza has been in the race since April and Thissen since 2008.

In addition to announcing her total take, the Kelliher campaign noted that they raised some $80,000 in the month of December alone.  That is a great month for a gubernatorial campaign, especially considering how tough this December was for political giving across the country.

On the other hand, Kelliher’s haul is certainly not enough to frighten the other candidates in the race.  The bottom line is that Speaker had a productive fall on the money front, but she’ll need to keep it up considering the deep pockets in this race.

Former Moderate GOP Chair SLAMS Coleman

Former MN GOP Chair Ron Eibensteiner took to the pages of the Star Tribune today, writing an op-ed that brutalizes former Sen. Norm Coleman and his flirtations with a gubernatorial run.  Eibensteiner, in case you have forgotten, was the Chair of the MN GOP who was ousted a few years back for being too “moderate.”  He is/was a key ally of Gov. Pawlenty.  The op-ed is just cruel:

Despite Coleman’s successful record as mayor of St. Paul, Minnesotans’ strongest lasting impression is of a candidate who’s helped install into office not just one but two of the most unqualified and inexperienced individuals in state history. Minnesotans can’t afford a rerun of those episodes. In the 1998 governor’s race, Norm lost to Jesse Ventura, a candidate who was best known as a former pro wrestler and who is now the host of a conspiracy theory show on television.

Fool me once — maybe it’s a fluke. But twice? Political insiders on both sides of the aisle widely viewed Franken as the weakest DFL candidate and agreed that the 2008 race was Coleman’s to lose. This time, a comedian who’s known for his rude behavior and blue language clearly outstrategized Norm on the campaign trail and in the recount.

Ouch! But that ain’t all…

As a businessman, I know something about management and strategy. The 2008 campaign revealed Coleman’s shortcomings in both areas. His management team lacked a clear leader, and to this day many of Norm’s supporters still don’t know who was calling the shots and taking responsibility for his overall strategy. Additionally, Norm’s communications strategy probably cost him a decisive margin of victory in the closing week of the race when he was ambushed by reporters in front of television cameras. The footage resulted in a devastating campaign commercial.

The same can be said for the Senate recount, which was bungled by Coleman and his team from day one.

Eibensteiner even said Coleman is too moderate for this race (remember, Eibensteiner was booted from his job as MN GOP Chair for being too moderate!)

Coleman was a cosponsor of “cap and trade” legislation that even moderate Democrats are now distancing themselves from because of its tax-raising implications. Perhaps most distasteful to Republicans was Coleman’s support for the $700 billion Wall Street bailout in the final months of the 2008 campaign.

I love the smell of Republican infighting in the morning! A Norm Coleman candidacy would probably result in an all out GOP civil war lasting through the primary in August. It would be a beautiful sight. Alas, each day that passes probably makes a Coleman candidacy less likely (though Marty Seifert is an excellent consolation prize).

Surprise! Thissen has Raised a Total of $370K (Updated)

Well, thank goodness I put this line in my post about Matt Entenza’s $300K in fundraising earlier this week: “Thissen’s a bit of a wild-card, but Entenza’s $300K is going to be tough to beat in this busy field.”  Otherwise I would be completely wrong, instead of just mostly wrong!  (EDIT: I was less wrong than I thought — Thissen’s total is since he formed his campaign committee in November, 2008, not since his announcement in 2009.  Thissen’s 2009 number is $253K and the total includes everything since his campaign committee formed.  This is still a very impressive number, and simultaneously reflects both the difference that an early start can make and how difficult it is to directly compare the various DFL candidates’ fundraising efforts thus far).

Yes, Rep. Paul Thissen has managed what can only be described as a minor coup by raising a whopping $370K so far.   The campaign states that the total comes from “nearly” 1900 donors.  While Thissen’s 2009 number alone is $253K, it’s splitting hairs at this point to discount early efforts; after all, candidates like Rybak only announced very recently, so each candidate has to be evaluated on their own timeframe.  I’m not sure if this compares with Ted Mondale or Mike Hatch’s pre-election year fundraising efforts (anyone have those numbers?), but it certainly places Thissen in the league of former major candidates.

A few comments on Thissen’s accomplishment:

  1. This will provide Rep. Thissen a very nice boost in both credibility and excitement as the caucuses approach.  Thissen has recently restated his intentions to abide by the endorsement, so he has certainly set the bar for himself very high given the super-delegate advantage both Kelliher and Bakk enjoy.
  2. Rep. Thissen has always been in the under-dog category of candidates but he has really taken advantage of these preconceptions by consistently outperforming and surprising.  He’s been a fun force to have injected into this field and his campaign (and campaign manager Gia Vitali) deserves quite a bit of credit for the impressive show.

Finally, and most importantly:  Between the three candidates that have announced numbers (and there are still some big-dogs to show their hand) we’re looking at nearly $900K in pre-election year DFL fundraising.  That DFL candidates will collectively break $1 million in 2009 gubernatorial fundraising is a fore-gone conclusion at this point. This is simply amazing and a testament to the fact that an admittedly crowded field has not interfered with, but perhaps enhanced, the appeal of these individually tremendous candidates.  I truly mean this (and this is why I haven’t made a decision which to support over the others), I would be ecstatic throwing my support behind any one of these guys or girls:  Entenza, Dayton, Kelliher, Rukavina (how fun would that be!?), Gaertner, Bakk, Thissen, Kelley, Marty, Rybak, the list goes on—these are all amazing individuals with very Minnesotan visions of how to govern this state and the direction we need to head to survive in this increasingly competitive world.

The DFL is fired up and ready to go.  If I were the GOP and I saw the numbers these guys are posting, I’d be shaking in my boots.

Emmer Raises $115K in 5 Months

Via the always informative Polinaut:

State Rep. Tom Emmer, R-Delano, says his campaign for governor raised $115,000 in 2009, and that more than $50,000 of that was collected in December. The campaign didn’t put out detailed figures, but says that amount exceeds fundraising goals set when Emmer started his run in July.

This is just wonderful.  Can Tom Emmer pleeeaaase be the Republican endorsed candidate for Governor?  Please?

Man this race is going to be fun!

Entenza Raises Over $300K in 2009

I just received a press release from Entenza campaign manager Bridget Cusick:

Matt Entenza’s campaign for governor announced today that it raised more than $300,000 in the 2009 reporting period.

Only two gubernatorial candidates have cleared this threshold in the off-year under the current campaign finance laws: Ted Mondale in 1998 and Mike Hatch in 2006.

The Entenza campaign also notes that this came from more than 1700 donors with no PAC money and “just over 1% in lobbyist contributions.”

These are impressive numbers but it’s difficult to assess just how impressive before seeing the sort of numbers the other candidates put up.  I would expect, however, that Entenza’s 2009 numbers will be field-leading because he’s been the most prominent fundraiser of the early-announcers. Entenza announced in January while Kelliher announced in September and Rybak just last month.  Meanwhile, Dayton hasn’t appeared to be pushing very hard on the fundraising front and I wouldn’t expect either Gaertner or Kelley to match Entenza here.  Thissen’s a bit of a wild-card, but Entenza’s $300K is going to be tough to beat in this busy field.

I think the much more interesting (and relevant) number will be Q4 2009, with the first real comparison of all the major candidates not coming until Q1 2010. That all being said, don’t put too much stock in the money game just yet — it’s very important that these guys show an ability to connect with voters’ and their wallets, and Entenza certainly deserves a feather in his cap for demonstrating as much, but it’s a bit early in an off-cycle state race for anyone to post any game-changer numbers.

The only other candidate I’ve seen that has numbers posted is Rep. Tom Rukavina with $125K in 5 months, which is truly impressive in its own right.  But we’ll have to wait a while to really be able to compare these candidates’ fundraising numbers in any meaningful way.